Is it just me, or does VAC intentionally wait until the last minute to make decisions
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Re: Is it just me, or does VAC intentionally wait until the last minute to make decisions
Well, it's 21 weeks and counting. Maybe I should call the OVO, not just because of this being late, but to address the lies that we have been told by the Minister. He stated that they were "reducing " wait time for disability claims, and that the new wait time is 16 weeks from the time they have all the information, vice the old 24 week timeline from the date of application. But this was just smoke and mirrors. The 16 weeks clock could start several months after the application is made, and only after they've gone through your file, sent out any questionnaires that are required, which can take an additional several weeks to complete if you need to see a specialist, and they send your file to Charlottetown. It used to be, that they promised, and often delivered a first response within those 24 weeks from the day you first contacted VAC, even if all you did was call them and request an disability application. Under the new REDUCED wait times, my claim is now actually nearing the 9 month mark (submitted July 5th, 2012). How can wait times be reduced if we have to wait even longer for a decision?
So I have ask, what is the longest anyone here has had to wait for an initial decision on a disability claim, not final approval after the appeal process, just the first yes or no from the department?
So I have ask, what is the longest anyone here has had to wait for an initial decision on a disability claim, not final approval after the appeal process, just the first yes or no from the department?
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bigrex i agree and am happy as hell im not on it and at the same time angry that some of my own are.they really have to stop this buyout somehow some way.
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Guest wrote:After waiting 16 weeks i was rejected for hearing loss. Appeal ?
Yes you should always appeal a denied DVA claim. Contact the Bureau of Pension Advocates to start the process. The contact information for that department should be stated in your declined pension application letter from Veterans Affairs. It is not uncommon for hearing loss and/or tinnitus pension applications to be turned down by the department on the first round. The same can be said for most pension applications unfortunately. Do not get discouraged and decide not to appeal. Simply put, you must appeal if you believe you are entitled.
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After waiting 16 weeks i was rejected for hearing loss. Appeal ?
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RAGS, the reason they changed to the NVC has nothing to do with false claims. VAC has always had the notion that there were false claims, or else every claim would be approved. Just the fact that there are so many denials, proves VAC feels that all of these are false or unjustified (rightly or wrongly). But The NVC was brought in as a cost cutting measure because the bureaucrats knew that our continued presence in Afghanistan and future hotspots would create a flurry of future claims, especially PTSD and OSI related, so they used the lump sum to counter these future costs, at the detriment of the Veteran.
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I did not say "high" I said percentage of claims. But one can extrapolate from the civilian industry insurance false claims and piggy back claims (piggy back is a illness or injury that is not job related and it gets slipped into employment by accident or on purpose) as significant under there very much more stricter rules then ours thus one can expect ours to be higher then theirs. The Ombudsman shop has plenty of evidence and the VAC statistics and reason they changed the charter is a proof in the system of issues.
As for issues that occur in a SDA that are non employer related I do believe you are interpreting DVAs responses to claims. DVA has been clear that they only cover military related issues as they should. SISP was to cover the other issues. Do you think DVA would cover a blown knee from your fall in your back yard a week before deployment and when on tour it did not heal and you aggravated it by tripping as you got out of your bunk? That claim if you submitted it as a injury you got due to SDA military service would be false.
But I do agree fully with you that once the last ww2 and korea start to unfortunately depart this life we will see a lighter burden on VAC and then we will see a better running department. That day wont be for a decade.
I did not say "high" I said percentage of claims. But one can extrapolate from the civilian industry insurance false claims and piggy back claims (piggy back is a illness or injury that is not job related and it gets slipped into employment by accident or on purpose) as significant under there very much more stricter rules then ours thus one can expect ours to be higher then theirs. The Ombudsman shop has plenty of evidence and the VAC statistics and reason they changed the charter is a proof in the system of issues.
As for issues that occur in a SDA that are non employer related I do believe you are interpreting DVAs responses to claims. DVA has been clear that they only cover military related issues as they should. SISP was to cover the other issues. Do you think DVA would cover a blown knee from your fall in your back yard a week before deployment and when on tour it did not heal and you aggravated it by tripping as you got out of your bunk? That claim if you submitted it as a injury you got due to SDA military service would be false.
But I do agree fully with you that once the last ww2 and korea start to unfortunately depart this life we will see a lighter burden on VAC and then we will see a better running department. That day wont be for a decade.
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navrat but their is widespread fraud occuring read some of the past and preasant ombudsmans reports on VRAB allong with the odd investagation their is more than enough evidence to sudjest that they are defrauding vets of legitimate claims on a massive scale.so many vets are suffering today in the name of the almighty dollar under the gise of legitimate vetting procedures.is their false claims being filed?ya i bet their is.are some getting through the vetting prosedure?ya but at the rate legitimate claims are being denied i would say not a whole hell of a lot.
allways question athority
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allways question athority
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Rags,Just a question to you? How do you know or can you verify that a high percentage of vac claims are fraudulent ? Where is the proof? Why does it bother you about the SDA Insurance principle Vac offers? If you are deployed to an SDA area and even if you get cancer, the first symptoms began while deployed , your entitled to full pension benefits. Vac brought that provision SDA insurance principle out because while being deployed anything can happen, so this gives piece of mind to the veteran and his family! Loose talk of fraud only services one group, and that's the group who wants to cut veterans benefits which they have and will continue to do. In ten years time there will be no more ww2 vets and fewer Korean War veterans, Vacs case load will decrease by 80000 pensioned and health care veterans alone. Veterans are under pressure now, so if we inject the notion that there is widespread fraud occurring, all veterans will suffer!
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In defense of VAC they are overwhelmed with files. There is no money in budget to increase the size of VAC due to tough economic times. A percentage of VAC claims are false and take up valuable time. Many false claims have been accepted in the past and increase and other requests from those false claims also add to burden.
They need to sort something out and fast as it will only get worse and the injured vet will suffer. Solutions are simple but may just be too unattainable.
1. INCREASE FUNDING TO VAC - not going to happen anytime soon till economy picks up.
2. TIGHTEN UP CLAIMS PROCEDURE - make it harder and investigate past claims to cut the burden of false claims down.
As a vet who was injured you must ask yourself why we pay so much money to non attributable to military service claims.
Teen has some very good insight to the internal complications of VAC. Add that to over burden and see how hard it is for them.
They need to sort something out and fast as it will only get worse and the injured vet will suffer. Solutions are simple but may just be too unattainable.
1. INCREASE FUNDING TO VAC - not going to happen anytime soon till economy picks up.
2. TIGHTEN UP CLAIMS PROCEDURE - make it harder and investigate past claims to cut the burden of false claims down.
As a vet who was injured you must ask yourself why we pay so much money to non attributable to military service claims.
Teen has some very good insight to the internal complications of VAC. Add that to over burden and see how hard it is for them.
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Well hopefully your wait is almost over. I am at over 19 weeks and counting, and still no decision. I actually have two consequential claims pending, that were started by my CM, the second one is at 14 weeks, so maybe they'll release both answers together.
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I been waiting also should i call the ombudsman? I am now at 15 weeks waiting? Let me know if you here anything bigrex thanks. My condition is hearing .
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Well, I know VAC waited until the 28th of Feb to even mail out the T4's so that is why they were later than most. As far as the ELB retro, they have not publicly made a decision yet but there is pressure on them to do so. Maybe the retro money will be included in the upcoming budget, we'll just have to wait.
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Was any one's T4's late this year? I had to wait a week. Does anyone know for sure if you get retro from ELB. They started giving me my vets pension back in oct 2012. But haven'heard anything since.
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Well for one, the OVO is useless. And two, that is the norm for VAC. Your not being treated any different my friend, get in line, they're not treating you any different from other Veterans.
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They make rules but never follow them!
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