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Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

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Post by Guest Fri 17 Feb 2017, 15:03

VAC makes the decision.

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Post by Guest Fri 17 Feb 2017, 15:00

Trooper wrote:New applications made after April 2006 fall under the New Veterans Charter.
So who looks at a PIA application and approves or denies it after a CM submits it?

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Post by Guest Fri 17 Feb 2017, 14:36

New applications made after April 2006 fall under the New Veterans Charter.

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Post by Guest Fri 17 Feb 2017, 14:32

Trooper wrote: Artie Simm,

That's easy to answer, The old pension act pre 2006, you can do what you wanted, work or not work, all benefits tax free for life, that's right all benefits tax free for life.

New Veterans Charter, a charter geared towards several taxed benefits that is so broad based, it secures long term employment for the bureaucrats, you don't see these guys having to apply for rehab, their secured pensions along with their bonuses have made it heaven for themselves in coming up with this new veterans charter, they look after themselves while giving the illusion that this new charter is better for all Veterans and their families.
New Veterans Charter, medically release members of the Canadian Forces, get these medically release Veterans back into the work force!

Yes, there's many benefits available in the new veterans charter, but how many veterans are getting all the benefits, all the benefits are taxed, it does not come close to the old pension act no matter which way you cut it.

If they are going to medically release you from the service, you should have some lifelong benefits before you leave the gate!
Well i was medically released before 2006 so I guess I`m not included/punished by the stipulations of the New Veteran`s Charter? ( even though I don`t know what I`m entitled to under the "old" veterans charter,lol).

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Post by Guest Fri 17 Feb 2017, 14:26

Artie Simm,

That's easy to answer, The old pension act pre 2006, you can do what you wanted, work or not work, all benefits tax free for life, that's right all benefits tax free for life.

New Veterans Charter, a charter geared towards several taxed benefits that is so broad based, it secures long term employment for the bureaucrats, you don't see these guys having to apply for rehab, their secured pensions along with their bonuses have made it heaven for themselves in coming up with this new veterans charter, they look after themselves while giving the illusion that this new charter is better for all Veterans and their families.
New Veterans Charter, medically release members of the Canadian Forces, get these medically release Veterans back into the work force!

Yes, there's many benefits available in the new veterans charter, but how many veterans are getting all the benefits, all the benefits are taxed, it does not come close to the old pension act no matter which way you cut it.

If they are going to medically release you from the service, you should have some lifelong benefits before you leave the gate!

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Post by Guest Fri 17 Feb 2017, 14:04

johnny211 wrote:Vet1234 - your story sounds very similar to what I went Thur with CM, and threatened to cutting me off ELB. That is until, I brewed up a s--- storm and went over my CMs head with a lot of calls and letters. There not God, which a lot of them think they are. As someone else said neither are they Drs or Pscys. VVV...
I`m new to VAC, I don`t even know all the terms here with out using the google, I just don`t understand how/why a veteran has a job why he`s not entitled to the same benefits as a veteran who has no job, considering they were released from the military for the same thing.

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Post by Guest Fri 17 Feb 2017, 14:00

Sorry, for all these questions but I`m new to VAC and this site. What are the qualifications to be a CM or do they vary. Are the Counselors or nurses, secretaries, volunteers?

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Post by bosn181 Fri 17 Feb 2017, 13:50

ya my psychiatrist is in halifax and i am in pei we just talk over the phone no one says i need to drive and sit in a chair to talk to one i do it from the comfort of my own place and i can smoke and drink coffee while we chat they tried many times to get me to switch but i told them if i am forced to i won't talk to anyone takes to long to build up trust again as for a family doc spent 3 years on waiting list until vac could not get paper work signed off and they helped get me a family doc in a few weeks if you are able to get pia and pias then go for it. as i told another guy who was saying he did not want to go after it i reminded him don't just think about you think about your family as well if you get it then it can help them as well

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Post by Vet1234 Fri 17 Feb 2017, 13:45

They wanted me to see a psychiatrist as well. I said no. Im happy with my Psychologist.
Any medical doctor or walk-in clinic can prescribe you the same stuff a Psychiatrist can.
I'm weary of any doctors or specialists that VAC recommends.
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Post by Guest Fri 17 Feb 2017, 13:42

Trooper wrote:Artie Simm,

Can you Hold down a job and receive the PIA?

The whole Idea behind the PIA is to provide Veterans with compensation for lost employment potential and career advancement opportunities due to a service-related permanent and severe impairment.

Veterans may qualify for the Permanent Impairment Allowance if they have:


  • a severe and permanent impairment caused by military service for which they have received a disability benefit, and


  • a VAC-approved application for rehabilitation services.


Taking into account that you qualify with the above requirements for the PIA, the way I read it regarding your employment, if the assessments prove that you have lost employment potential and loss career advancement opportunities, you would no longer be able to work, therefore, I doubt they will pay you the PIA when you are still able to be fully able to continue in your present employment position, in my view it is one or the other. You no longer can work therefore qualifying for the PIA, or you are capable of continuing to work therefore would not qualify for the PIA.

Now I may stand to be corrected on this, and I welcome anyone who has been in this particular position to speak up and post their situation, but that is the way I see it and read it.

With that said, the Permanent Impairment Allowance is being changed to Career Impact Allowance in April of this year, the criteria is obviously going to change, change to reflect the impact on your career, whether this makes it easier to qualify is yet to be seen.

Some good advice posted on this particular topic today, not all CM's are on the ball, and yes for sure when seeking benefits, the Veteran needs to a degree take the lead and do the homework and push hard for every benefit their seeking.
How many times have I read where a Veteran was told a negative by their CM or VAC only to come on this forum and be told or guided on the issue differently which resulted in them being approved for the benefit, when they were told they would not qualify by their CM or VAC.

The members of this forum are doing an excellent job in providing help and info, I am very pleased with this and I'm sure it's appreciated by all who view the forum.
The sharing of info from front hand experience results in top notch help, help that goes towards helping Veterans and their families in obtaining the benefits they deserve.
That`s where I get confused...(as I often do). I was medically released over a decade ago, I`ve bounced around from a few jobs but over the last 4 I have found one I can sustain, however in terms of PIA, I do have a "sever and permanent imparment caused by my military service" - which is why they let me go in the first place. The fact that I was able to find work without VAC `s help should be irrelevant to my claim because I was squeezed out of the CAF before I "lost employment potential" and/or " could reach my career advancement potential". It was my CM who recommended I apply for PIA even though my CM knows I have a job, so it must be allowed, they would know, I hope?. If it is allowed , I wonder why it took 4 years for them to tell me about PIA.
since I`m blowing my own horn here, I went to see my CM today and was told the reason VAC wanted me to see someone other that the Psychologist I have been seeing, is because they want me to see a psychiatrist instead because the latter could prescribe me medication. But after the Mefloquin horror show I went through, I told them I am not open to taking drugs as often the side effects are worse than the cure.

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Post by johnny211 Fri 17 Feb 2017, 13:25

Vet1234 - your story sounds very similar to what I went Thur with CM, and threatened to cutting me off ELB. That is until, I brewed up a s--- storm and went over my CMs head with a lot of calls and letters. There not God, which a lot of them think they are. As someone else said neither are they Drs or Pscys. VVV...
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Post by Guest Fri 17 Feb 2017, 13:08

Artie Simm,

Can you Hold down a job and receive the PIA?

The whole Idea behind the PIA is to provide Veterans with compensation for lost employment potential and career advancement opportunities due to a service-related permanent and severe impairment.

Veterans may qualify for the Permanent Impairment Allowance if they have:


  • a severe and permanent impairment caused by military service for which they have received a disability benefit, and


  • a VAC-approved application for rehabilitation services.


Taking into account that you qualify with the above requirements for the PIA, the way I read it regarding your employment, if the assessments prove that you have lost employment potential and loss career advancement opportunities, you would no longer be able to work, therefore, I doubt they will pay you the PIA when you are still able to be fully able to continue in your present employment position, in my view it is one or the other. You no longer can work therefore qualifying for the PIA, or you are capable of continuing to work therefore would not qualify for the PIA.

Now I may stand to be corrected on this, and I welcome anyone who has been in this particular position to speak up and post their situation, but that is the way I see it and read it.

With that said, the Permanent Impairment Allowance is being changed to Career Impact Allowance in April of this year, the criteria is obviously going to change, change to reflect the impact on your career, whether this makes it easier to qualify is yet to be seen.

Some good advice posted on this particular topic today, not all CM's are on the ball, and yes for sure when seeking benefits, the Veteran needs to a degree take the lead and do the homework and push hard for every benefit their seeking.
How many times have I read where a Veteran was told a negative by their CM or VAC only to come on this forum and be told or guided on the issue differently which resulted in them being approved for the benefit, when they were told they would not qualify by their CM or VAC.

The members of this forum are doing an excellent job in providing help and info, I am very pleased with this and I'm sure it's appreciated by all who view the forum.
The sharing of info from front hand experience results in top notch help, help that goes towards helping Veterans and their families in obtaining the benefits they deserve.

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Post by BinRat Fri 17 Feb 2017, 13:05

Yes a Walmart greeter is a Job, but if it requires prolong standing, maybe you can't do that, and or the anxiety of being
around a lot of people at a time.
So maybe a easy Job, but for some would be a killer to do, just because the environment it is in, and or the requirements
are things you can't do.

The thing with PIA just to add, cause you said if you lost your Job, Umm a grade 3 only gets $599.96 before taxes a month
so it's not very much.

And "Your psych can clearly state that you are not able to work and that the chances for you to have suitable gainful employment in the future is poor."

SGE means that you will make more then 66 2/3 rd's of your pre-release salary, if it is less then 66 2/3 of your pre-release salary
you are not gainfully employed


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Post by Guest Fri 17 Feb 2017, 11:22

Vet1234 wrote:You're employed because you need to eat and have a home.  If your Psych says you shouldn't be working.  You shouldn't be working.  Your CM is not your Doctor.
I was in kind of the same boat...
I was on VocRehab for 5 years.  My anxiety was so bad that I wouldn't commit to schooling and my CM threatened to cut me off my ELB.
Thing is, I never knew about PIA and extended earnings loss.  I have a family and stayed on VocRehab as long as I could because I thought if I didn't go to school and get a job, there were no benefits or programs to help take care of me.
I found out about extended earnings loss and PIA/S, TPI.  
The thing that may hold you back is "type of work is damaging"
VAC may interpret that as you are able to do different work.
VAC wants all vets to rehab vocationally and join the work force.  The reality is, that may not be an option for everyone.
If you have anxiety about work, you should let your psych know.  Your psych can clearly state that you are not able to work and that the chances for you to have suitable gainful employment in the future is poor.
Right now I am maintaining my job, and hope to continue to do so. my main question is can you receive PIA if you hold down a job. If I suddenly lose my current job due to my condition I don`t know what other job I could get that keeps my family fed, i.e. I`m not going to become a Walmart greeter ---even though that`s "a job". I`m not opposed to some form of schooling for a new profession but I`m also over 50 and not in the best physical/mental shape.

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Post by Vet1234 Fri 17 Feb 2017, 11:04

You're employed because you need to eat and have a home. If your Psych says you shouldn't be working. You shouldn't be working. Your CM is not your Doctor.
I was in kind of the same boat...
I was on VocRehab for 5 years. My anxiety was so bad that I wouldn't commit to schooling and my CM threatened to cut me off my ELB.
Thing is, I never knew about PIA and extended earnings loss. I have a family and stayed on VocRehab as long as I could because I thought if I didn't go to school and get a job, there were no benefits or programs to help take care of me.
I found out about extended earnings loss and PIA/S, TPI.
The thing that may hold you back is "type of work is damaging"
VAC may interpret that as you are able to do different work.
VAC wants all vets to rehab vocationally and join the work force. The reality is, that may not be an option for everyone.
If you have anxiety about work, you should let your psych know. Your psych can clearly state that you are not able to work and that the chances for you to have suitable gainful employment in the future is poor.
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