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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by By the Bay on Fri 21 Jul 2017, 01:52

Hello,
I received an envelope in the mail today from VAC. I thought for sure it was going to be a rejection letter for my CIA application. My husband opened the letter and informed me that I was granted a favorable DEC decision based on being permanently disabled. My hubby contacted my case manager via VAC My Account and asked her to submit my CIA supplement application. She called him back this afternoon and told him that she already submitted my CIAS when my DEC was approved a few weeks ago. She went on to say that my CIAS could take up to 18 weeks to be processed and is put on hold until my CIA is approved.

If I am approved for CIA, does anyone know what level I might get?
I joined the military after I graduated from college.
In 2005, I was medically released after serving only 2 years....so that means I still had 23 years left to serve in my career.  
I am unable to pursue any job in my field of study or any job due to being permanently disabled. My Earning capabitily is 0%.  What Grade level would I be classified under! Why does the policy makers make everything so darn complicated?  scratch

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by pinger on Sun 16 Jul 2017, 20:04

Thought I'd try to help you all with my own timeline.

Oct. 2013 ELB approved.
Feb. 2014  TPI applied.
Mar. 2014  TPI approved (thought it was one week scratch )
Apr. 2014   PIA denied (not sure when I applied.)
May. 2014  EELB approved.
Sep. 2015  VIP approved.
Jan.  2016  PIA re-assessment.
Jan.  2016  2 yr TPI re-approved.
May  2016  PIA and supp. approved.
Apr.  2017  PIA 3 to 2.

Approaches are as different as any Case Managers might be.
Or... our own.

And everyones situation is different (understatement)
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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Vet1234 on Sat 15 Jul 2017, 14:16

Totally agree Bigrex
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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by bigrex on Sat 15 Jul 2017, 14:00

It is best to apply for everything all at once. that way, your CIAS approval should merely be placed on hold, pending the DEC determination, and you are nor having to wait the full time for each application process (PIA, then DEC, then PIAS) . You can also apply for ELB, if you haven't already, then once you get the DEC approval, it switches to EELB. That in turn, will automatically approve you for RISB once you turn 65.
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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Vet1234 on Sat 15 Jul 2017, 09:11

Your CM works for YOU. Be polite, but let them know what I stated above. Although your CM may have a "plan" she doesn't approve your CIA. Every month you wait for your CIA to be approved, is a month you won't receive CIAS retro unless you were deemed to have a DEC. At 1100$ a month, 4 or 5 months is a lot of money. If you are approved CIA/S the supplement is only payable from the date you were deemed DEC.... there is no benefit of waiting until after. Unless you are interested in giving YOUR supplement back to the federal reserve or buying your local VAC office new furniture, your CM is uninformed or not considering wait times and how the policy works.
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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by By the Bay on Sat 15 Jul 2017, 01:14

I believe every CM has their own idea of how things work or should work. This is why everyone gets confused about benefits their entitled to. I applied for CIA and CIA supplement with my CM. After our home visit, she took all my applications with her and submitted the the VIP and CIA only. I was informed that she wants to hold off on submitting my CIA supplement application until my DEC is approved. She said, "this is the system that CM's follow in order to get benefits approved." If this is wrong, should I talk to her about it? I don't want to make her upset.
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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Rustytheviking on Sat 15 Jul 2017, 00:27

Yeah, ask to initiate it. My cm gave me the run around for 3 plus years. After asking on here I called the 1-800 number and asked for them to initiate it. He wasn't happy, but what do I care. He doesn't have my best interests in mind.

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Vet1234 on Sat 15 Jul 2017, 00:24

Also, the CIA can be initiated through myVac at any time
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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Vet1234 on Sat 15 Jul 2017, 00:23

That's just not true. You can ask for a DEC determination regardless of receiving CIA. If you are deemed DEC/tpi you qualify for the CIAS when you apply and are approved CIA. There is no policy or legislation that forbids a vet to ask for a DEC review before applying or being approved CIA. I recommend inititiating both processes at the same time. Although a CM may suggest waiting, I advise against it. With VAC backlogs and administration times falling short of service standards, it's smart to have your DEC determined before your CIA is adjudicated. If both are favorable, you will receive both and your CIAS will be retro to the day that you were deemed DEC. This is important because if you wait until CIA is approved to initiate a DEC review, your CIAS will only become payable on the date you were deemed DEC. It's possible to lose months of CIAS by seeking a DEC status after approval foe CIA.
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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by By the Bay on Sat 15 Jul 2017, 00:02

Paratrooper,
I was told by my Case Manager that one must first apply for CIA, once approved, if unable to work due to disabilities you can ask your CM to start the paper work for you to receive a 'DEC' classification.  Your CM will mail your Doctor medical questionnaire forms to fill out. Once that is completed, your CM will present your completed application to the area committee for approval.  DEC decisions are made at your local area VAC. Once Approved for DEC classification, your caseworker will submit a CIA Supplement application. To receive the Supplement you must be DEC. This is how it was explained to me by my CM and she has  been working as a VAC CM for 25 years.

I hope this helps you out!
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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Rustytheviking on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 23:39

You need to be declared dec to get the supplement

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Paratrooper on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 20:48

I was recently awarded the CIA as a result of 2 permanent physical injuries and diagnosed with severe PTSD. I served 21 years and I was under the rehab program for almost 3 years. Contrary to what I've heard from other Vets and what I was told by my CM that if you apply for the CIA and the CIA Supplement and if you are approved for the CIA you are also automatically approved for the CIA Supplement as it falls under the same category under the CIA. Surprisingly, I was not approved for the CIA Supplement. Has anyone encountered the same issue? Or is it because I'm also receiving the Earnings Loss as an income?

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Guest on Thu 13 Jul 2017, 20:04

Sounds like all your duckies are in order.... yes we all understand the "flood gates".... The 15% top up, lead to many new programs available.

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by By the Bay on Thu 13 Jul 2017, 01:55

Thanks ScottyG!
I have already applied for DEC, CIA, CIA Supplement and requested a reassessment of my disability pension on the advice of my new case manager. I did not think I was entitled to these benefits because I was under SISIP LTD and I have a small pension of 12% under the old charter from 13 years ago. It wasn't until my husband applied on my behalf  for the 15% top-up....the flood gates of applications started pouring in. I was very nervous applying for the Rehab program but my case manager said that I will most likely be DEC because of the severity of my disability. I was recently approved for VIP and now I am waiting patiently to see if I will get approved for the other benefits. Plus I received $1.37 for my top up. It might not be much but hey it's an improvement😆 That buys me a pack of gum or a small cup of coffee at the Beckers Store👍 If I get denied, my case manger will help me with the appeal! I am just so happy with what I got so far! 😊

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Guest on Thu 13 Jul 2017, 00:39

CIA and CIA s... is not clawed back from LTD benefits or ELB and its for life. Prior to applying talk it over with your Case manager...good luck

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