Budget 2017 - And VAC Part in it -
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Re: Budget 2017 - And VAC Part in it -
Iceman, Could you explain that a little more. I'm not catching what you are referring to about the grandfather clause?
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Here is something else I noticed in regards to this bill.
Currently, If someone had previously applied for a disability under the pa, and was refused, if they reapplied after April 1, 2006 and it was awarded you would be grandfathered in.
That grandfather clause will now be removed. Basically, no one will ever receive anything more than they already have under the pa.
Currently, If someone had previously applied for a disability under the pa, and was refused, if they reapplied after April 1, 2006 and it was awarded you would be grandfathered in.
That grandfather clause will now be removed. Basically, no one will ever receive anything more than they already have under the pa.
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I'm 5% pa, and 20 da. Not entitled to the aa as written as not completely physically disabled
Not eligible for Fcrb as it is written, as receiving a pension > 1%
For the crb, it not only says Any pension, but there is that wording, any compensation. Technically, if you received 1.00 for anything under the pension act, they could say you are not eligible.
Not eligible for Fcrb as it is written, as receiving a pension > 1%
For the crb, it not only says Any pension, but there is that wording, any compensation. Technically, if you received 1.00 for anything under the pension act, they could say you are not eligible.
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Trooper posted this video presentation by David, and several Vets in the previous page;
https://www.facebook.com/jamie.baillie.nspc/videos/1265251350232210/
I urge all to watch. It is a Truly moving account by these Vets, on the daily battle we face. Kim, a wife of a Vet, I feel did an awesome job of getting her points across. I hope the huge Vet wave will now be mobilizing for battle..Johnny Out. VVV...
https://www.facebook.com/jamie.baillie.nspc/videos/1265251350232210/
I urge all to watch. It is a Truly moving account by these Vets, on the daily battle we face. Kim, a wife of a Vet, I feel did an awesome job of getting her points across. I hope the huge Vet wave will now be mobilizing for battle..Johnny Out. VVV...
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well apparently they can "waive" the application and switch the benefits over if you qualified for FCRB. That being said, if you have another 6 months before your next FCRB payment...
The benefit is payable to the "caregiver" now, I don't see it being possible to withhold the new $1000/month payable to the caregiver, whether or not the Veteran received the FCRB.
The benefit is payable to the "caregiver" now, I don't see it being possible to withhold the new $1000/month payable to the caregiver, whether or not the Veteran received the FCRB.
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I somehow doubt that they will expand the criteria for getting the CRB, because of the single payment level. With the AA, there are 5 levels, ranging between $289 and $1808 per month, tax free, so someone who only requires occasional assistance can still qualify.
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i guess we will have to wait and see, i don't think anyone already on old system under attendance allowance will be able to apply but i can't see people on caregiver already not being able to get this top up and expand it so more could qualify but its GOC so nothing can surprise me anymore. hurry up and wait
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So, I read through the entirety of the bill c-42
http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&DocId=8849327
Regarding the caregiver relief benefit. There is specific wording that says it is not applicable to anyone that has ever reviewed any sort of pension or compensation under the pension act
(b.1) the veteran has not been awarded a pension or compensation as those terms are defined in subsection 3(1) of the Pension Act;
http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&DocId=8849327
Regarding the caregiver relief benefit. There is specific wording that says it is not applicable to anyone that has ever reviewed any sort of pension or compensation under the pension act
(b.1) the veteran has not been awarded a pension or compensation as those terms are defined in subsection 3(1) of the Pension Act;
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I was in the garage and having a coffee and a smoke, and seems all over the News TV Radio on that Press Release these guy's did, even the One part, where David Macleod Remarks about Not recommending any to join the Military..
I bet you right now Ottawa is gonna be in damage control with this as Davids story has gone from Coast to Coast to Coast...
And with what around $5000 Odd are released each year, Hmmm might not have a military in a few year's, Unless VAC gets it s#$# together, well not Vac, but the PM and MVA.
I bet you right now Ottawa is gonna be in damage control with this as Davids story has gone from Coast to Coast to Coast...
And with what around $5000 Odd are released each year, Hmmm might not have a military in a few year's, Unless VAC gets it s#$# together, well not Vac, but the PM and MVA.
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Hehr touts vets' benefits, hedges on pension
Hehr touts vets' benefits, hedges on pension
March 24, 2017
OTTAWA — Veterans Affairs Minister Kent Hehr has all but ruled out a return to the old way injured veterans received pensions, setting up a potentially vicious fight with some of those hurt in uniform.
In an interview Friday with The Canadian Press, Hehr touted the benefits and services available under the New Veterans Charter, which replaced the previous pensions-for-life system in 2006.
Those include a lump-sum payment, career training and targeted income-replacement programs, many of which the Liberals have topped up and expanded over the last two years.
Wednesday's budget saw the government commit to paying up to $80,000 for long-serving veterans who want to go back to school, as well as additional help to find civilian jobs and new money for families.
Those are in addition to a number of measures adopted in last year's budget.
"The whole suite of benefits under the New Veterans Charter were not available under the Pension Act," Hehr said. "My dad always says this: 'The good old days weren't always so good'."
But some veterans say the current system provides less financial support over the course of a lifetime and have demanded that the old pensions-for-life be brought back.
Hehr stopped short when asked whether the old pension system is dead, but veterans were told by a member of his staff in at least one briefing earlier this week that it would not be coming back.
A recording of the briefing was obtained by The Canadian Press.
That sparked complaints from several veterans who told officials that Justin Trudeau specifically promised to bring back the pensions when he campaigned for their votes during the last election.
"We will re-instate lifelong pensions and increase their value in line with the obligation we have made to those injured in the line of duty," Trudeau said during a campaign stop in Belleville, Ont., in August 2015.
The Liberal government has since promised to give injured veterans the option of a lifelong pension, the details of which have been promised before the end of the year.
But some fear the government will simply take the lump sum that veterans currently receive for pain and suffering when they are forced from the military and spread it out over a lifetime.
The lump-sum amount varies depending on the extent of injury, with the maximum amount being $360,000.
Asked about this, Hehr said: "We're not going to preclude any discussions on this. All options are on the table. Veterans need to know that our government is committed to their success and their families."
The New Veterans Charter received strong support when it was announced in 2005, which Hehr suggested was a sign veterans weren't happy with the old pension system.
The problem was that the new charter wasn't properly implemented by the Conservatives, he said, which resulted in many veterans getting inadequate support or falling entirely through the cracks.
"I think a lot of times people forget there were calls to get rid of the old Pension Act," he said.
"Our government is committed to filling the gaps that the former government did not do over the course of their 10 years in power."
By Lee Berthiaume, The Canadian Press
http://www.durhamregion.com/news-story/7207817-hehr-touts-vets-benefits-hedges-on-pension/
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Applications made before April 1, 2018
(2) An application for a family caregiver relief benefit that is made under subsection 65.1(1) of the Veterans Well-being Act as it read on March 31, 2018 and that is received by the Minister before April 1, 2018 is to be dealt with in accordance with that Act as it read on March 31, 2018. If the application is approved, the veteran is entitled to the benefit for only one year.
not very clear on how they deal with transitional benefits.
I received my FCRB in February... if the new benefit is payable to my caregiver, I dont see a provision that stops payments from the caregiver until the amount i received is reached.
Even if they took the money i received before April 1st into account, the benefit is payable to the caregiver, so they should still owe the caregiver $1000 per month as of April 1st i figure. I also believe that they can't claw back the FCRB paid legitimately, and can't deny the caregiver the allowance based on the fact that it was paid to the Veteran in need
thoughts?
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Here we go again, it sounds great but let's make them wait a year. Or am I not seeing something? .VVV..
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The proposed changes announced in the budget come into force on the 1st April 2018.............Here is a link to the bill C-42
SUMMARY
This enactment amends the Canadian Forces Members and Veterans Re-establishment and Compensation Act to, among other things,
(a) specify to whom career transition services may be provided under Part 1 of the Act and authorize the Governor in Council to make regulations respecting those services;
(b) create a new education and training benefit that will provide a veteran with up to $80,000 for a course of study at an educational institution or for other education or training that is approved by the Minister of Veterans Affairs;
(c) end the family caregiver relief benefit and replace it with a caregiver recognition benefit that is payable to a person designated by a veteran;
(d) authorize the Minister of Veterans Affairs to waive the requirement for an application for compensation, services or assistance under the Act in certain cases;
(e) set out to whom any amount payable under the Act is to be paid if the person who is entitled to that amount dies before receiving it; and
(f) change the name of the Act.
Coming into Force
April 1, 2018
30 The provisions of this Act, other than sections 21, 22 and 27, come into force on April 1, 2018.
http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&Pub=bill&Doc=C-42_1&Parl=42&Ses=1#enH676
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SUMMARY
This enactment amends the Canadian Forces Members and Veterans Re-establishment and Compensation Act to, among other things,
(a) specify to whom career transition services may be provided under Part 1 of the Act and authorize the Governor in Council to make regulations respecting those services;
(b) create a new education and training benefit that will provide a veteran with up to $80,000 for a course of study at an educational institution or for other education or training that is approved by the Minister of Veterans Affairs;
(c) end the family caregiver relief benefit and replace it with a caregiver recognition benefit that is payable to a person designated by a veteran;
(d) authorize the Minister of Veterans Affairs to waive the requirement for an application for compensation, services or assistance under the Act in certain cases;
(e) set out to whom any amount payable under the Act is to be paid if the person who is entitled to that amount dies before receiving it; and
(f) change the name of the Act.
Coming into Force
April 1, 2018
30 The provisions of this Act, other than sections 21, 22 and 27, come into force on April 1, 2018.
http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&Pub=bill&Doc=C-42_1&Parl=42&Ses=1#enH676
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Would this Caregiver Recognition Benefit be an additional amount on top of the Attendance Allowance? I have an application in with DVA for Attendance Allowance; had a home nurse visit and now waiting for a decision. Just wondering about the new caregiver recognition benefit and whether it was a separate application and whether one negates the other.
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yeah i called and asked vac about that today seeing wife been getting it for a few years will they just top it up for the rest of the year or wait to re apply next year she told me she has no information at all at this time about the new care giver they have not been told or have been and not allowed to say one or the other
i just hope they change it so more people can now gain access to this benefit and not have to keep fighting the system
i just hope they change it so more people can now gain access to this benefit and not have to keep fighting the system
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