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Post by Supremedebater on Fri 02 Nov 2018, 10:40

Does anyone else see that they're taking the CIA and CIAS, changing the name of the CIAS and totally deleting and removing the CIA benefit and calling it the PSC lifetime pension. We're losing here people. We're losing the career impact allowance funds and it is becoming the lifetime pension yet they're removing the Career impact allowance to do this? What a f-in gaggle. How are they getting away with this and know one is saying anything? Unless I'm totally wrong here?

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Post by Teager on Fri 02 Nov 2018, 11:40

CIAS is being deleted bit if you have DEC and under 20 years service you will get a 1% increase to salary until you would have hit 20 years. CIA is being replaced by the PSC but will be tax free that's why the rates have been lowered. But yes we are losing as those after April 1 will not get CIAS unless you already have it then it will be grandfathered.

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Post by Supremedebater on Fri 02 Nov 2018, 11:58

So the veterans currently receiving CIAS will not lose it after 1april 2019?

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Post by Supremedebater on Fri 02 Nov 2018, 12:00

The new vets will not get it on or after April 1 2019? Where is the literature on this?

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Post by propat on Fri 02 Nov 2018, 13:03

hey buds the literature has been out and discussed here for a while . the loss is over $1100.00 a month for post april 1st 2019 vets .

http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/services/pension-for-life

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Post by propat on Fri 02 Nov 2018, 13:05

oh forgot to add . correct vets currently receiving CIAS will not lose it .

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Post by XMedic on Fri 02 Nov 2018, 16:55

My CM is pushing to get me DEC approved and therefore, CIAS before any of the changes are made on April 1, 2019. After that I will lose out. I currently get CIA.
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Post by Teager on Fri 02 Nov 2018, 17:16

Yup, if you even think you could be entitled to CIAS get your application in now or before 1 April 2019

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Post by Guest on Sat 03 Nov 2018, 03:40

Teager wrote:Yup, if you even think you could be entitled to CIAS get your application in now or before 1 April 2019
what if your application is in, gets denied and you appeal it after April 1, you will be asking VAC to recognize a claim for a benefit that no longer exists. If you win the case, they will just say “ we’re sorry, we agree with your disability but there is no longer CIA/CIAS “

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Post by bigrex on Sat 03 Nov 2018, 10:12

I believe they will make it, so only applications approved before Apr 1st are being grandfathered. So if you have an application pending, or on appeal, I do not think they will be forced to honour it. This is my opinion only, as I have not seen anything written that confirms or denies what will happen to any outstanding applications when the changeover occurs. But that is why I feel the way I do. When the NVC was enacted, they were very vocal about the fact that any applications initiated before Apr 2006, would get a pension, regardless of when it was finally approved. But with CIAS, they haven't even addressed it one way or other, in the documentation, other than stating it's being rolled into the new IRB.
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Post by Guest on Sat 03 Nov 2018, 10:35

bigrex wrote:I believe they will make it, so only applications approved before Apr 1st are being grandfathered. So if you have an application pending, or on appeal, I do not think they will be forced to honour it. This is my opinion only, as I have not seen anything written that confirms or denies what will happen to any outstanding applications when the changeover occurs. But that is why I feel the way I do. When the NVC was enacted, they were very vocal about the fact that any applications initiated before Apr 2006, would get a pension, regardless of when it was finally approved. But with CIAS, they haven't even addressed it one way or other, in the documentation, other than stating it's being rolled into the new IRB.
what’s the appeal process or is their one,


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Post by bigrex on Sat 03 Nov 2018, 11:42

CPPD has absolutely no bearing on being approved CIA, let alone the level of CIA. Every decision from VAC can be appealed, whether it's a departmental review, or through VRAB. Did BPA tell you that they do not handle CIA appeals? Or did they just say they didn't think that you had a case for appeal? because if they don't think they will be successful, they won't want to waste their time and efforts.

Also, I was talking about applications and appeals for CIAS, just going away in April. If you have CIA now, even if you have an appeal in, it will be morphed into the APSC, at the same level.
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Post by Guest on Sat 03 Nov 2018, 12:24

bigrex wrote:CPPD has absolutely no bearing on being approved CIA, let alone the level of CIA. Every decision from VAC can be appealed, whether it's a departmental review, or through VRAB. Did BPA tell you that they do not handle CIA appeals? Or did they just say they didn't think that you had a case for appeal? because if they don't think they will be successful, they won't want to waste their time and efforts.

Also, I was talking about applications and appeals for CIAS, just going away in April. If you have CIA now, even if you have an appeal in, it will be morphed into the APSC, at the same level.
BPA said they will only take cases where an existing disability claim has been denied or that a disability was granted but the % is wrong. They told me I’m on my own with anything CIA related

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Post by Teager on Sat 03 Nov 2018, 12:54

There is no appeal for CIA. It is a review that you have to ask for in writing. "A Veteran who is dissatisfied with any CIA or CIA supplement decision may request a review in writing. "

If there is new evidence or your medical/illness has gotten worse then I would ask for the review. You should also look at the CIA policy and different levels and explain why you feel you deserve that level based on the medical criteria that is laid out.

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Post by Guest on Sat 03 Nov 2018, 13:07

Teager wrote:There is no appeal for CIA. It is a review that you have to ask for in writing. "A Veteran who is dissatisfied with any CIA or CIA supplement decision may request a review in writing. "

If there is new evidence or your medical/illness has gotten worse then I would ask for the review. You should also look at the CIA policy and different levels and explain why you feel you deserve that level based on the medical criteria that is laid out.
thx I originally submitted application by applying my disability to the criteria posted on the levels of CIA,the only new evidence would be a psychiatrist recommending I not work and Cppd,

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