New Website to Catch Military Imposters
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Re: New Website to Catch Military Imposters
ya not happy about this but a mans gotta eat I guess . lotta food in jail and come winter its warm ta boot .
crap happens
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crap happens
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Re: New Website to Catch Military Imposters
I agree gunner. I have no big issue with this guy. the most he might get for portraying himself as a vet is maybe a few extra dollars. What I have problems with are those that pass themselves off as military to impress those around them, and then feed off it. Or trying to gain financially from it, by people buying them beer, or getting DND discounts, wherever they are offered.
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Sounds like the poor guy has many problems, wearing an army jacket and telling stories of his non army days in service is one of his least concerns. At least he was not at Remembrance Day service like that other guy trying to fool people in his bogus uniform.
Mental Health and disorder's are very hard to cope with, I hope the guy gets help.
Mental Health and disorder's are very hard to cope with, I hope the guy gets help.
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canadian-armed-forces-veteran-panhandling-charged-toronto-1.3796323
Posted: Oct 07, 2016 7:02 PM ET on CBC website
Is this panhandler an army vet or an impostor?
A panhandler wearing a Canadian Armed Forces uniform was arrested this week for allegedly wearing service medals he didn't earn.
Daniel Roy, 49, was sitting at the corner of Bloor Street West and St. George Street on Tuesday morning when police charged him under a section of the Criminal Code that deals with unlawful use of military uniforms or certificates.
Police were acting on a tip from a former Canadian Armed Forces member who saw the panhandler and thought he wasn't a veteran. He was taken into custody and later released.
Roy was wearing a standard-duty uniform, bearing double stripes on the sleeves indicating the rank of an Armed Forces captain. He also had a burgundy beret given to members of an airborne regiment, and his jacket was adorned with a number of medals and ribbons.
Service unclear
"He was wearing some medals or ribbons that it doesn't appear he was awarded, some medals that he wasn't allowed to wear he was wearing," Toronto Police Const. Jeffrey Riel said just after he put Roy in the back of his cruiser. "It appeared to be an American Airborne badge and some other British Special Forces badges."
Riel, who himself served in the military, told CBC News he believed Roy is a veteran because of the detailed information he provided, including his service number, dates and service in Somalia.
The Department of National Defence was unable to confirm or deny Roy's service, but the items Roy was wearing could be bought at almost any army surplus store. Spokesperson Ashley Lemire did confirm that the name Daniel Roy is common, with 17 former service members listed, many of them from Quebec.
Roy isn't the only person to make headlines for allegedly impersonating a Canadian soldier. Franck Gervais was charged after he was interviewed by CBC News on Parliament Hill during Remembrance Day ceremonies in 2014. Gervais eventually pleaded guilty.
The reporter who interviewed him, Diana Swain, spoke about the incident on CBC:
If found guilty, Roy faces either a fine or a jail term of up to six months. Riel also confiscated the military jacket.
Tearful encounter
One Toronto couple remembered giving money to Roy after seeing him in the Bloor and St. George area.
On Sept. 19, Lynda Lemberg and her husband, Jeffrey Russel, and gave him $20.
Lemberg, a former high school teacher and self-described activist for social justice and peace, said she stopped to talk to Roy because of her concerns about Post Traumatic Stress Disorder among veterans.
"I said, 'why are you on the street?' and he said he was very ill, that he had stomach cancer that has gone to his liver," she said. Lemberg added she smelled alcohol on his breath and that "he was very tremulous."
Roy told her he had served in Somalia, Afghanistan and his last placement was in Morocco before he was pulled from service. The man also mentioned he was having trouble getting a veteran's pension.
Lemberg said Roy spoke with a Quebecois accent and told her he joined the military when he was 16, following in the footsteps of his grandfather who had also served in the army.
"I do know people struggling with mental health issues can create stories or narratives that they believe, but he was so precise," Lemberg said. "He might have heard this from somebody else but any disbelief I had I was willing to suspend it."
Riel said he didn't think Roy was mentally ill, but didn't doubt his service. The officer said he believed the man was panhandling to buy drugs.
Veterans Affairs says it has a campaign for veterans in crisis with a toll-free number: 1-800-268-7708.
Posted: Oct 07, 2016 7:02 PM ET on CBC website
Is this panhandler an army vet or an impostor?
A panhandler wearing a Canadian Armed Forces uniform was arrested this week for allegedly wearing service medals he didn't earn.
Daniel Roy, 49, was sitting at the corner of Bloor Street West and St. George Street on Tuesday morning when police charged him under a section of the Criminal Code that deals with unlawful use of military uniforms or certificates.
Police were acting on a tip from a former Canadian Armed Forces member who saw the panhandler and thought he wasn't a veteran. He was taken into custody and later released.
Roy was wearing a standard-duty uniform, bearing double stripes on the sleeves indicating the rank of an Armed Forces captain. He also had a burgundy beret given to members of an airborne regiment, and his jacket was adorned with a number of medals and ribbons.
Service unclear
"He was wearing some medals or ribbons that it doesn't appear he was awarded, some medals that he wasn't allowed to wear he was wearing," Toronto Police Const. Jeffrey Riel said just after he put Roy in the back of his cruiser. "It appeared to be an American Airborne badge and some other British Special Forces badges."
Riel, who himself served in the military, told CBC News he believed Roy is a veteran because of the detailed information he provided, including his service number, dates and service in Somalia.
The Department of National Defence was unable to confirm or deny Roy's service, but the items Roy was wearing could be bought at almost any army surplus store. Spokesperson Ashley Lemire did confirm that the name Daniel Roy is common, with 17 former service members listed, many of them from Quebec.
Roy isn't the only person to make headlines for allegedly impersonating a Canadian soldier. Franck Gervais was charged after he was interviewed by CBC News on Parliament Hill during Remembrance Day ceremonies in 2014. Gervais eventually pleaded guilty.
The reporter who interviewed him, Diana Swain, spoke about the incident on CBC:
If found guilty, Roy faces either a fine or a jail term of up to six months. Riel also confiscated the military jacket.
Tearful encounter
One Toronto couple remembered giving money to Roy after seeing him in the Bloor and St. George area.
On Sept. 19, Lynda Lemberg and her husband, Jeffrey Russel, and gave him $20.
Lemberg, a former high school teacher and self-described activist for social justice and peace, said she stopped to talk to Roy because of her concerns about Post Traumatic Stress Disorder among veterans.
"I said, 'why are you on the street?' and he said he was very ill, that he had stomach cancer that has gone to his liver," she said. Lemberg added she smelled alcohol on his breath and that "he was very tremulous."
Roy told her he had served in Somalia, Afghanistan and his last placement was in Morocco before he was pulled from service. The man also mentioned he was having trouble getting a veteran's pension.
Lemberg said Roy spoke with a Quebecois accent and told her he joined the military when he was 16, following in the footsteps of his grandfather who had also served in the army.
"I do know people struggling with mental health issues can create stories or narratives that they believe, but he was so precise," Lemberg said. "He might have heard this from somebody else but any disbelief I had I was willing to suspend it."
Riel said he didn't think Roy was mentally ill, but didn't doubt his service. The officer said he believed the man was panhandling to buy drugs.
Veterans Affairs says it has a campaign for veterans in crisis with a toll-free number: 1-800-268-7708.
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Man arrested for unlawfully wearing military uniform in Toronto
Man arrested for unlawfully wearing military uniform in Toronto
Panhandler charged with unlawfully wearing a Canadian Forces uniform.
Thu., Oct. 6, 2016
Daniel Roy sat hunched over on the southeast corner of Bloor St. and St. George last week, legs outstretched, his head sinking to the ground between his knees.
In front of him was a sign that read: “Retired military. Sick and homeless. Please help.”
Wearing a dark green military jacket decorated with insignia and a maroon beret, he thanked strangers that dropped coins into his small tin or stopped to bring him food, and gave the sign of the cross when a man handed him a $20-bill.
Roy, 49, was arrested and charged with unlawfully wearing a uniform of the Canadian Forces on Tuesday morning.
Toronto Police were notified of Roy’s actions after a veteran suspected his uniform was not legitimate.
Police spokesperson Meghan Gray said he was arrested and charged for unlawfully wearing a military uniform of the Canadian Forces, namely the uniform of a Captain in the Canadian Army, contrary to Section 419 (a) of the Criminal Code.
He was released on a promise to appear in court.
Roy had told the Star last week he had served with the Canadian Airborne Regiment in Somalia during the 1990s. He provided information about his military background, including a service number, date of birth, and location of birth, but the Star was unable to confirm that he served in the Canadian Armed Forces.
Roy said he is suffering from post traumatic stress disorder and was collecting money to purchase pain medication to help treat his stomach cancer.
The Department of National Defence could not confirm or deny that Roy served with the Canadian Armed Forces based on the information he had provided to the Star. Rob Prouse, a veteran of the Airborne Regiment, was unable to find a record of a man under the name in the nominal roll that listed those deployed to Somalia in the early 1990s.
Prouse listed many issues with the uniform Roy was seen wearing: the badge above the medal ribbons would not be worn on a Canadian uniform; the badge on the maroon cap is not from any unit that was authorized to wear the beret in Canada; the jump wings aren’t Canadian, and the flags on the lapels should be unit insignia.
A volunteer from Veterans Emergency Transition Services (VETS) Canada, an organization that works with helping homeless and at-risk veterans, was planning on reaching out to Roy, said co-founder Debbie Louther.
Louther said over the past six years, the organization has dealt with one person a year on average that has lied about having served for the country.
Her primary concern in such circumstances is over the safety and well-being of that person.
“There are a lot of veterans out there, not necessarily homeless veterans, but people who take the stolen-valour thing to a whole other level,” she said.
“We’re all human beings. Some have served in the military. Some of us didn’t. In a situation where, if you know someone was wearing a uniform for some reason and they weren’t in the military, the first thing that would come to my mind would be mental illness. People that live on the streets are humans, regardless of what they are wearing.”
Last year, a Quebec man pleaded guilty to unlawfully wearing a uniform and medals during the 2014 national Remembrance Day ceremony. Franck Gervais, of Cantley, Que., was sentenced to probation and community service.
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2016/10/06/man-arrested-for-unlawfully-wearing-military-uniform-in-toronto.html
Panhandler charged with unlawfully wearing a Canadian Forces uniform.
Thu., Oct. 6, 2016
Daniel Roy sat hunched over on the southeast corner of Bloor St. and St. George last week, legs outstretched, his head sinking to the ground between his knees.
In front of him was a sign that read: “Retired military. Sick and homeless. Please help.”
Wearing a dark green military jacket decorated with insignia and a maroon beret, he thanked strangers that dropped coins into his small tin or stopped to bring him food, and gave the sign of the cross when a man handed him a $20-bill.
Roy, 49, was arrested and charged with unlawfully wearing a uniform of the Canadian Forces on Tuesday morning.
Toronto Police were notified of Roy’s actions after a veteran suspected his uniform was not legitimate.
Police spokesperson Meghan Gray said he was arrested and charged for unlawfully wearing a military uniform of the Canadian Forces, namely the uniform of a Captain in the Canadian Army, contrary to Section 419 (a) of the Criminal Code.
He was released on a promise to appear in court.
Roy had told the Star last week he had served with the Canadian Airborne Regiment in Somalia during the 1990s. He provided information about his military background, including a service number, date of birth, and location of birth, but the Star was unable to confirm that he served in the Canadian Armed Forces.
Roy said he is suffering from post traumatic stress disorder and was collecting money to purchase pain medication to help treat his stomach cancer.
The Department of National Defence could not confirm or deny that Roy served with the Canadian Armed Forces based on the information he had provided to the Star. Rob Prouse, a veteran of the Airborne Regiment, was unable to find a record of a man under the name in the nominal roll that listed those deployed to Somalia in the early 1990s.
Prouse listed many issues with the uniform Roy was seen wearing: the badge above the medal ribbons would not be worn on a Canadian uniform; the badge on the maroon cap is not from any unit that was authorized to wear the beret in Canada; the jump wings aren’t Canadian, and the flags on the lapels should be unit insignia.
A volunteer from Veterans Emergency Transition Services (VETS) Canada, an organization that works with helping homeless and at-risk veterans, was planning on reaching out to Roy, said co-founder Debbie Louther.
Louther said over the past six years, the organization has dealt with one person a year on average that has lied about having served for the country.
Her primary concern in such circumstances is over the safety and well-being of that person.
“There are a lot of veterans out there, not necessarily homeless veterans, but people who take the stolen-valour thing to a whole other level,” she said.
“We’re all human beings. Some have served in the military. Some of us didn’t. In a situation where, if you know someone was wearing a uniform for some reason and they weren’t in the military, the first thing that would come to my mind would be mental illness. People that live on the streets are humans, regardless of what they are wearing.”
Last year, a Quebec man pleaded guilty to unlawfully wearing a uniform and medals during the 2014 national Remembrance Day ceremony. Franck Gervais, of Cantley, Que., was sentenced to probation and community service.
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2016/10/06/man-arrested-for-unlawfully-wearing-military-uniform-in-toronto.html
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Is there a site for catching those posing as a PM?
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You never know Navrat, if we have four more years of Harper, and his balanced budgets, there may be no such thing as VAC anymore, and we will have to contact Service Canada for benefits, just like welfare.
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It does seem like the hard way to go about getting anything! Isn't it easier just to apply for welfare than deal with veterans affairs.
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What you do not realize is harper and veterans affairs think we are all imposters!!! Being a soldier doesnt mean shit anymore so why worry about someone dressing up as something that doesnt mean shit and is not respected for their service to their country their all just clown uniforms or at least the men and women wearing them are clowns in the eyes of our goverment so who really gives a shit if somebody wants to dress like a clown!!!
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That's friggen brutal. Posers being soldiers? People need to get real lives. That's pathetic Teen.
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well nice to know about it thanks for the info. to bad people have to be like that.
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Well so far two posers have been caught and to answer your question Foundry during the Afghan conflict there were a lot of people saying they were in Afghanistan to get a pat on the back, free beer, coffee.
These were grifters looking for free stuff. It even went as far as charities. Over the last 4 years I would that I investigated about 12 so called "Veteran Charities".
It's people wanting to be important.
These were grifters looking for free stuff. It even went as far as charities. Over the last 4 years I would that I investigated about 12 so called "Veteran Charities".
It's people wanting to be important.
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ok I checked out the link and I for one have never heard of any one posing as a veteran or serving member so why is it an issue now and has it just started to become a big issue since the war slowed down, please remember I try to stay out of the loop for reason of health.
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New Website to Catch Military Imposters
A new website Canadian website and Facebook page has been created to catch individuals who feel the need to impersonate Canadian Forces personnel.
You can now report this person directly to the new website and the staff at Stolen Valour Canada will do the rest.
Website:
www.StolenValour.ca
Emails:
webmaster@stolenvalour.ca
You can now report this person directly to the new website and the staff at Stolen Valour Canada will do the rest.
Website:
www.StolenValour.ca
Emails:
webmaster@stolenvalour.ca
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