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well said Robbie Royal, well friggin said, as I stated under another topic, this has become twitter or facebook and not an information sharing forum for vet issues.

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I feel that there are way too many threads that actually have nothing to do with the Class Action as a whole.
I do not care about chameleons, or is it a good deal bad deal, lawyer fees or is Dennis being ripped off or over paid. THE BOTTOM LINE IS AND WILL BE, the suit is over we now must move forward and answer all questions that will assist the class as a whole to understand how the decision will effect everyone, no bones no jokes no bitching just facts with real explanations that will not confuse the hell out of everyone. There should be two Threads on this site 1.) SISIP BREAK DOWN for all CLASS MEMBERS AND GUESTS. This thread should have One legal representative speaking and the rest listening, 2.) Q&A SISIP BREAK DOWN, answered by a professional adviser with real facts and no generalization, if you have a question then post them in a Q&A thread.

You Boltaction308 are absolutely correct in what you have said, in defense of some of us old (regular) members there have been those that attack the opinions and outright slander a comment so having said that this place use to be a coffee shop atmosphere but lately has become a regular joke. I like you just want information as to what why how when and where all of this will effect me financially and legally. I would have thought that after hauling in 17.5% or so that the legal team would have employed the services of professional Tax Revenue Agents and possibly a `Class Action Hotline`. It is not much to ask for but hey what the hell do I know

Call me paranoid or whatever, but as a new member here who's been following the details of the SISIP issue and as someone who only a couple of days ago registered an account, it almost feels that some of the old timers....ok, ok, the REGULARS on here don't seem to want the newcomers on board. Am I reading this thread right? Or, should I take my meds and re-read it after they've kicked in?

Seriously though, and I know there's a lot of PTSD sufferers in here, myself included, may read this thread the wrong way.

Unless of course the thread is intended to be read precisely the way it's worded. Or, am I completely out to lunch here?

Personally I don't share much information of my personal life because this is the internet after all and I don't want my info out there for anyone to see and come to a conclusion as to who I am. Then there's the fact my wife is also ex-mil and I doubt she'd appreciate me telling her story and identifying who she is as well.

Food for thought, that's all.

would truly love to vote on the issue as to whether or not the deal, is a good one! The problem I have with voting is that I can honestly state, without reservation or embarrassment, is that I don't know exactly what to vote, yes or no! The overwhelming amount of conflicting advice and massive confusion regarding the proposed settlement, is simply, depressing! One could argue the case, that those affected, should employ independent counsel so as to untangle the web of complexities posted to this site! It befuddles me as to why there isn't some representation from the legal team advising affected members about their options, concerns, confusions, hopes and fears! Why not, for example, hold extensive forums on this site and let the legal team field questions from the affected members over an extensive period of time frames, not 1 or two hours on the day of the release of the proposed settlement! Additionally, why not hold a closed meeting somewhere in the great city of Halifax where affected members of the class can ask questions and get some clarifications regarding their situations? This is nearly a one billion dollar suit! It would seem to me, that a comprehensive and personal explanation to those affected would be common sense! I'm more confused than ever and I've followed this issue much earlier than the certification proceedings! I've read countless articles and analyzed dozens of opinion pieces over the years. I was completely familiar with the issue at hand and believe it or not, was one of the affected persons who complained to the President of SISIP and then Defense Minister, Bill Graham, way back in 2004 when I became one of the so called zero summed! I simply can't vote yes or no, because I'm being asked to vote on something that I, and I would dare to guess, the majority could not accurately explain with regard to how this settlement will play out when talking the practical considerations of tax implications, retro calculations or associated legal fees.
Notwithstanding my concerns, I must say that I was elated when Mr. Manuge, garnered the impressive courage to fight this battle on my, and others behalf, who were unable to do so, due to multiple health issues. It still amazes me, sitting here tonight, how that gentleman managed to gather the intestinal fortitude, and decided that he was going to fight this fight! It's not like he was losing a great amount of money, and in the end, he wasn't going to win a great amount of money! His only explanation for doing this was, principle! Imagine, principle! I don't know this gentleman, never met him, never spoke to him and I have had zero communication with him over the years! Yet, this man stands up, tells his story, looks into a TV camera and tells me, and others like me, that he's going to do this for those who can't fight the fight! Amazing! I still can't believe that people like this still exist in today's world. Just when you you're about to lose faith in humanity and in the basic goodness of people, this gentleman stands up and states, that he's going to fight for others, based on principle! It's almost surreal in a way! I never thought that I would see the day, when this unfair practice would be terminated! But, here we are!
Meeting Mr. Manuge would be an honor and a privilege to say the least. I'm sure his wife and children must be very proud and elated with his stance and his determination in defending what was the right thing to do! I would like to make the suggestion that this gentleman must have been raised in an extremely grounded and nurturing environment! His parents and community must have instituted wonderful values. How else to explain the sacrifices of time, energy, stress, health and reputation in tackling such an issue simply based on the time honored premise of, principle! I find that this man's efforts has reinvigorated the sense of purpose in my own life. Not because I may end up with some financial resources that I felt were unjustly expropriated from me and my family and now will be returned at some point, but rather, this gentleman has demonstrated what it means to take and make a stand for those less able or capable! Mr. Manuge, I thank you in part for fronting this Class Action Suit, but mostly for affecting me personally by your selfless efforts in pursuing what was the right thing to do! Thank You!

beleaf67

your too much propat and you have been there buddy as most of us have

good slogan "if i dont win your case ill eat a bug"

propat

Great name for your Company by the way ,

" Don't check me , check our Record "


For Country
Dave

Done Dave and you know my firm has never lost a decision and that is a fact something I am very proud of being a member of such a class organization of real professionals that never let creature comforts get in the way of accomplishing any case or mission period.

Yes, unfortunately lots of similar stories. I, for you, can hold my head high as i never shied away from any deployments. I knew a CPO1 that before he retired wanted to get a VA pension. He read everything he could about back problems and then presented himself to sickbay with the appropriate symptoms. he did end up getting a VA pension and then tried to get his buddies to sign off on his Independance program receipts (VIP) after he retired. He often bragged about beating the system. Funny thing though, he only lasted a few years after retirement and died of cancer which was totally unrelated to service.

Should i ever need a Lawyer , consider this my retainer , first dibs on you Steve .

For Country
Recon031
Dave

There you go!

points at robbie lmao.

propat

Yes, it pissed me off far too often that some people were able to play the system and never were reprimanded while others, like myself, get screwed. I was diagnosed with knee OA in Dec as a result of an accident in the Persian Gulf, and by January, I was put on perm cat and told that DMCARM had decided to release me, before the meds were even in my system. Yet a young private from Pet had lost his leg in a motorcycle accident and was kept in because of an artificial leg (we had the same orthopedic surgeon in Ottawa). There was another guy I knew that screwed his shoulder in a car accident. He was employed at the Stad gym for 3 years until he was fit enough to return to the ships. Then a Master Seaman in my trade was put on permanent category and couldn't go back to sea, so he was posted to Ottawa. 6 months later, he came off category, got promoted and then went back on permanent category.

FIRE AWAY BOYS LOL, just be politically correct and don't point it ain't polite