Off topic: Need advice
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Ok there may be a law against shooting coyotes and other fur bearing animals however if they are a nucens ie taking down livestock or poultry they are open game if you are not able to do it yourself because you just don’t want to you can by law higher a trapper come in and remove them and most trappers I’ve dealt with will do it free of charge do to the amount they will receive for fur you can try all the other things other personal have posted but by my own knowledge with this problem is that they are in a pack they will not stop until they have gotten every animal I went through the same thing
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Thanks propat
My husband and son wants to strap the smoke cannons to my son's remote control vehicle and drive it inside? Im wondering if the smoke cannons have a long enough burn? My fears is that it will burn out before the RC reaches the entrance. They want enough space between them and the coyotes. Will this work?
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My husband and son wants to strap the smoke cannons to my son's remote control vehicle and drive it inside? Im wondering if the smoke cannons have a long enough burn? My fears is that it will burn out before the RC reaches the entrance. They want enough space between them and the coyotes. Will this work?
Cheers,
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sounds good just make them uncomfortable as possible for as long as possible . if you annoy them every day they will leave .
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Update:
My closest neighbour who lives 12 kms down the road stopped by for his weekly order of eggs. He informed me that the Ministry of Natural Resourse in Ontario has imposed a hunting and trapping ban on coyotes and wolves in my surrounding townships. So the darn things are protected under the Algonquin Wolf Protection Campaign. I called the Ministry and indeed this information was correct. I can only move them passively from my property. They must leave on their own accord. (How can I move them "passively" on their own accord?) Perhaps I could chase them out by telling them about my day. It works with my husband. I would ramble on about girly stuff and my husband would get so bored and annoyed that he would move into the other room and watch Netflix on his IPAD.
They also informed me that a large number of our area coyotes have sarcoptic mange which is a high contagious skin disease that can be transferred to my farm animals and humans. Their advice...once we chase out the coyotes, we need to destroy their den and trail path with a control burn of the area and the chicken coop and barn should be washed down with bleach/water. Anything that they touched should be washed.
So tomorrow morning my husband is travelling to the city in search of items you all suggested (Thank you).
Operation Passively Storm the Den is underway.
So far on our shopping list we have; bleach, wolf urine, bear bangers, smoke cannons, and paint balls and paint ball gun. We will only shoot the frozen paint balls near them since this is a "passive attack". Is there anything else we should put on our shopping list?
I just hope they don't attack back....I don't want to become coyote poop.
Cheers,
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My closest neighbour who lives 12 kms down the road stopped by for his weekly order of eggs. He informed me that the Ministry of Natural Resourse in Ontario has imposed a hunting and trapping ban on coyotes and wolves in my surrounding townships. So the darn things are protected under the Algonquin Wolf Protection Campaign. I called the Ministry and indeed this information was correct. I can only move them passively from my property. They must leave on their own accord. (How can I move them "passively" on their own accord?) Perhaps I could chase them out by telling them about my day. It works with my husband. I would ramble on about girly stuff and my husband would get so bored and annoyed that he would move into the other room and watch Netflix on his IPAD.
They also informed me that a large number of our area coyotes have sarcoptic mange which is a high contagious skin disease that can be transferred to my farm animals and humans. Their advice...once we chase out the coyotes, we need to destroy their den and trail path with a control burn of the area and the chicken coop and barn should be washed down with bleach/water. Anything that they touched should be washed.
So tomorrow morning my husband is travelling to the city in search of items you all suggested (Thank you).
Operation Passively Storm the Den is underway.
So far on our shopping list we have; bleach, wolf urine, bear bangers, smoke cannons, and paint balls and paint ball gun. We will only shoot the frozen paint balls near them since this is a "passive attack". Is there anything else we should put on our shopping list?
I just hope they don't attack back....I don't want to become coyote poop.
Cheers,
By the Bay
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I had a friend a few years ago who froze paint balls then shot for their hind legs. It hurts but does not kill them and they disappeared after a few shots.
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Could also try a dog decoy. Will keep deer away as well. Good luck.
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You could try wolf urine. Yes they sell it at feed stores and even amazon. Seems to only instill fear in females not so much for aggressive males. If you have seen a den it's probably for pupping.Spray above your knee height on fence or post. Higher the bigger the wolf will seem. Spray near den as close as you can. Be careful she will defend but might move on. Also try a night or two of fireworks.
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If they are that much of a nuisance then I would really consider killing them in a manner without using a firearm. Like propat stated there are people who use more cruel ways to deal with nuisance animals such as coolant, poison or other means (use google for ideas). As long as there is food (e.g chickens, goats) that can be easily harvested by the coyotes then they will likely remain close to your farm.
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without killing them ( crossbow ) . not sure what you can do . never came across aggressive ones . ive been able to keep non aggressive ones away from downed game for a short time by hanging my underwear in a tree above . with a den in place not sure any sent will help and may explain the aggression . some in the past would have left coolant out to poison them that is inhumane and should not be done .
best bet given your parameters would be lights and a loud noisemaker hooked up to a motion sensor placed as close to the den as possible between the den and your home .
hope this helps
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best bet given your parameters would be lights and a loud noisemaker hooked up to a motion sensor placed as close to the den as possible between the den and your home .
hope this helps
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I need some much needed advice....I am desperate!
About 5 weeks ago, my husband encountered four coyotes roaming on our hobby farm. He was unharmed but it did rattle his bones because the two of the coyotes displayed aggressive behaviour towards him. Normally, our area coyotes keep their distance but these SOBs are gutsy. Last week, three chickens and one of our Pygmy goat was killed and carted off. We flew a drone over our property and noticed that coyotes have made themselves a cosy den in the thickets near our back wood pile. We are now housing our chickens, rooster, goats and pig in our 3 car garage because the coyotes broke though our chicken coop and our small barn is not very secure. We have contacted the Ministry of Natural Resources but they were unable to help during the coyotes' mating season (February to March). They suggested that the pack should move on after the pups are old enough to hunt on their own. This is unrealistic....We don't have 3 to 6 months to wait and see if they move on because my husband has a farm to run, maple sap buckets to collect and a garden to plant. They also suggest that we could trap the pack and release them somewhere else. DUH! No thank you! I don't tangle with anything that has a bigger bite than my own. Plus, this does not help us either because live trapping in our township is not permitted. I know there must be a few veterans on this site that has experience dealing with these beasts or has wrestled a bear just for kicks during hunting season.
So does anyone have any suggestions on how to evict these coyotes? I don't own any rifles. I also don't know anyone who has a firearms licence or weapons of any kind. So killing them is out of the question. So far, we have tried what our livestock veterinarian had suggested... he told us to spray our property with a water and chilli powdered solution. It did nothing... However, they seemed to like it. So if there are farmers, hunters or Rambo's out there with any advice to help my husband and I with our predicament, it would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
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About 5 weeks ago, my husband encountered four coyotes roaming on our hobby farm. He was unharmed but it did rattle his bones because the two of the coyotes displayed aggressive behaviour towards him. Normally, our area coyotes keep their distance but these SOBs are gutsy. Last week, three chickens and one of our Pygmy goat was killed and carted off. We flew a drone over our property and noticed that coyotes have made themselves a cosy den in the thickets near our back wood pile. We are now housing our chickens, rooster, goats and pig in our 3 car garage because the coyotes broke though our chicken coop and our small barn is not very secure. We have contacted the Ministry of Natural Resources but they were unable to help during the coyotes' mating season (February to March). They suggested that the pack should move on after the pups are old enough to hunt on their own. This is unrealistic....We don't have 3 to 6 months to wait and see if they move on because my husband has a farm to run, maple sap buckets to collect and a garden to plant. They also suggest that we could trap the pack and release them somewhere else. DUH! No thank you! I don't tangle with anything that has a bigger bite than my own. Plus, this does not help us either because live trapping in our township is not permitted. I know there must be a few veterans on this site that has experience dealing with these beasts or has wrestled a bear just for kicks during hunting season.
So does anyone have any suggestions on how to evict these coyotes? I don't own any rifles. I also don't know anyone who has a firearms licence or weapons of any kind. So killing them is out of the question. So far, we have tried what our livestock veterinarian had suggested... he told us to spray our property with a water and chilli powdered solution. It did nothing... However, they seemed to like it. So if there are farmers, hunters or Rambo's out there with any advice to help my husband and I with our predicament, it would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
By the Bay
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