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Post by Kramer Mon 09 Nov 2020, 14:31

Not sure if the link is the latest news..... I haven't seen anything recently...but, then again I have a hard time to see the forest from all the trees Smile

It appears to be moving along at the regular pace everything else does for us veterans. Shocked

https://www.hshlawyers.com/expertise/mass-tort-class-action-litigation/mefloquine/

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Post by Rustytheviking Mon 02 Sep 2019, 17:27

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Rustytheviking wrote:I would recommend getting a vestibular assessment done. Life mark in Ottawa does them, vac will pay for it as well, if you have ptsd or tbi coverage. I took mefloquine, but my test was minimal mefloquine symptoms as opposed to normal issues from a tbi. I have decided to not proceed with the lawsuit as I feel there are others out there like the Africa guys who could benefit the most from this lawsuit. Life mark does correspond with doc Remington on mefloquine issues.
if you took it regardless of the severity of your symptoms l wouldn't leave the lawsuit.your situation will have no bearing on the Somali tour troops. This lawsuit is not so much about the ptsd mimicry but more about the cover up. The gov. Basically gave us a revolver and let us play Russian roulette, some people got lucky some did not, but we all had a bullet in the pistol.

And I have zero effects from mefloquine. So I won’t be pursuing the lawsuit. Plenty of others who could use that help. I’m definitely taken care of for my injuries. Generally people treat non combat tour vets worse when they come back broken.

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Post by Unknown Soldier Mon 02 Sep 2019, 01:15

Rustytheviking wrote:I would recommend getting a vestibular assessment done. Life mark in Ottawa does them, vac will pay for it as well, if you have ptsd or tbi coverage. I took mefloquine, but my test was minimal mefloquine symptoms as opposed to normal issues from a tbi. I have decided to not proceed with the lawsuit as I feel there are others out there like the Africa guys who could benefit the most from this lawsuit. Life mark does correspond with doc Remington on mefloquine issues.
if you took it regardless of the severity of your symptoms l wouldn't leave the lawsuit.your situation will have no bearing on the Somali tour troops. This lawsuit is not so much about the ptsd mimicry but more about the cover up. The gov. Basically gave us a revolver and let us play Russian roulette, some people got lucky some did not, but we all had a bullet in the pistol.
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Post by Rustytheviking Sun 01 Sep 2019, 23:14

I would recommend getting a vestibular assessment done. Life mark in Ottawa does them, vac will pay for it as well, if you have ptsd or tbi coverage. I took mefloquine, but my test was minimal mefloquine symptoms as opposed to normal issues from a tbi. I have decided to not proceed with the lawsuit as I feel there are others out there like the Africa guys who could benefit the most from this lawsuit. Life mark does correspond with doc Remington on mefloquine issues.

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Post by Kramer Sun 01 Sep 2019, 22:08

Unknown Soldier,

I am going to say.....you have great ammo. I hope the judges will be fair. The Equitas Class Action was areal kick in the head because the judges didn't want to throw the GoC under the bus!

Good luck!

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Post by Unknown Soldier Sun 01 Sep 2019, 18:20

Riddick wrote:Unknown Soldier,

If you have documentation, you hang onto those originals.

When MVA Kent Hehr first came onboard, I emailed him specifically about Mefloquine.  He admitted he was unfamiliar with it.  I suggested it would be prudent he do so.

As we all know....nothing happened!

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I sent copies to the lawyers handling the case, l am one of the few who actually has anything written in their medical file about mefloquine, it’s not just about the damage it caused , it’s about the military knowing the side effects and not telling us, when I described what I was going through to a medical professional they just wrote everything down, and made notes to themselves about what they felt the cause was but let me walk out of the MIR. It’s like going for an X-ray and the tech sees that your chest is riddled with cancer...but says nothing except “ see you in 6 months for your next check up”
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Post by Kramer Sun 01 Sep 2019, 15:50

Unknown Soldier,

If you have documentation, you hang onto those originals.

When MVA Kent Hehr first came onboard, I emailed him specifically about Mefloquine. He admitted he was unfamiliar with it. I suggested it would be prudent he do so.

As we all know....nothing happened!

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Post by Unknown Soldier Sun 01 Sep 2019, 11:33

Riddick wrote:Unknown Soldier,

I guess anything is possible.  Currently there is no precedence or legislation in Canada.  Ireland settled with a soldier .....the settlement was quite large but undisclosed.....That could help us....time will tell....until then most is just speculation.  My medicals docs were purged/vetted....I can only guess I am not the only one that happened too.

Years ago the dumb-ass Cdn government allowed the U.S. to experiment with Agent Orange in Gagetown.  The GoC tried for many years to bury it.....and hope it would go away.  Eventually they admitted but not before many soldiers died due to the illness(s) associated/because of it. D-D-D

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well I was one of the lucky ones, because back when I got out the Clerks actually photo copied a soldiers complete file including medical documentation and you got it all in a file. Because of that I have two separate incidents written about me by a dr. That states “ appears to be having an adverse effect to Larium”, however, here’s the kicker, it was never verbally expressed to me or else I would have quit taking it, instead the dr. Just wrote her observation in my med doc, leaving me at risk.And in the news yes, there are various countries with soldiers fighting against what the army has subjected them to, so is there a possibility Canadian veterans will win this case, sure, but the downside is VAC twisting it to say you’ve already been compensated, and that type of precedent has already been set.
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Post by Kramer Sun 01 Sep 2019, 11:18

Unknown Soldier,

I guess anything is possible.  Currently there is no precedence or legislation in Canada.  Ireland settled with a soldier .....the settlement was quite large but undisclosed.....That could help us....time will tell....until then most is just speculation.  My medicals docs were purged/vetted....I can only guess I am not the only one that happened too.

Years ago the dumb-ass Cdn government allowed the U.S. to experiment with Agent Orange in Gagetown.  The GoC tried for many years to bury it.....and hope it would go away.  Eventually they admitted but not before many soldiers died due to the illness(s) associated/because of it. D-D-D

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Post by Unknown Soldier Fri 30 Aug 2019, 22:24

Riddick wrote:Mefloquine Toxicity mimics many of the symptoms as PTSD.  Once you mix the milk with water to make the soup.....how do you separate it?  There are many scenarios and the dynamics of each are not black and white on their own, just imagine if a person has both? 10% Mefloquine toxicity and 90% PTSD.....50/50 the variables are endless.  I do not believe there is a doctor/specialist out there that can say with any certainty what a person has or doesn't have between the two?  Having said that......there is a good chance that a person with Mefloquine Toxicity will have an easier chance of getting or being predisposed to getting PTSD.

Although I do not know.....I highly doubt it would/should affect your/anyone's pension(s) as it seems to me that it would be no different than say a person who has one pension for say hearing loss and then you put in and receive a claim for PTSD.  Many vets have multiple pensions (or awards).

In my limited understanding, I believe there are many doctors who are still getting familiar with Mefloquine.  Many have no clue.

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yes but VAC also likes to lump totally different injuries together , I.e. you can have anxiety,depression and PTSD, all different ailments on their own, but VAC throws a blanket on them all if you have all 3 and you’ll only get a pension for one, albeit the highest % one, but still. Vac may lose this case and then say oh, you have mefloquine poisoning on top of your ptsd...well we already pay you 30% for PTSD, your mefloquine is only 10%, so you’ve already been compensated.
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Post by Kramer Fri 30 Aug 2019, 21:58

Mefloquine Toxicity mimics many of the symptoms as PTSD.  Once you mix the milk with water to make the soup.....how do you separate it?  There are many scenarios and the dynamics of each are not black and white on their own, just imagine if a person has both? 10% Mefloquine toxicity and 90% PTSD.....50/50 the variables are endless.  I do not believe there is a doctor/specialist out there that can say with any certainty what a person has or doesn't have between the two?  Having said that......there is a good chance that a person with Mefloquine Toxicity will have an easier chance of getting or being predisposed to getting PTSD.

Although I do not know.....I highly doubt it would/should affect your/anyone's pension(s) as it seems to me that it would be no different than say a person who has one pension for say hearing loss and then you put in and receive a claim for PTSD.  Many vets have multiple pensions (or awards).

In my limited understanding, I believe there are many doctors who are still getting familiar with Mefloquine.  Many have no clue.

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Post by Unknown Soldier Fri 30 Aug 2019, 20:42

Hellraiser wrote:Hi all.
I have vac pensions for PTSD and other med conditions.
I was given mefloquine on a tour that I did, and I believe it had some negative effects on me.
I was wondering if I joined the mass tort and received a settlement, if it would affect my pensions.
Looking for your thought. Thanks
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I joined the lawsuit, and a lot of veterans have asked the lawyer team that very same question, they are saying no, but who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of VAC. Once it’s before the courts , if it’s successful , VAC may say oh, we are paying out for all these soldiers misdiagnosed for PTSD...then each of those veterans owe us back any money paid to them for PTSD. Know also that if the case wins it could help out many injured vets, but if the lawyers lose everyone with a case is responsible to pay the court fees, I hear there are about 2000 troops in the suit right now, but only about 10 of the worst cases are being presented
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Post by Hellraiser Fri 30 Aug 2019, 17:58

Hi all.
I have vac pensions for PTSD and other med conditions.
I was given mefloquine on a tour that I did, and I believe it had some negative effects on me.
I was wondering if I joined the mass tort and received a settlement, if it would affect my pensions.
Looking for your thought. Thanks
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