Recon031 & RobbieRoyal were right about one thing , The GOC got away with "No Damages" pay "The 17.7%legal fee" & let these Veteran's Keep their hard Earned Money

It would be nice to have a copy of all those letters and request for judgment to add as an annex to a request to have GOV pay.

the document is the
Memorandum of Fact and Law
Paragraph 29 is one location, the actual order or request would be in the submission to the court have not found it yet.

Rags, yes the GOC tried using a common scare tactic by trying to intimidate the lead plaintiff. This was not going to happen and MC knew it was nothing other than an attemp to scare a novice. That is why we needed the professional services of a large and reputable law firm.

Real good rags,keep it up.

GOV asked twice before for Dennis to pay legal cost of this case!!!!

I was reading and re reading all the court docs preping for the presentation on the 7th and found that on 2 separate occasions the GOV asked the court to find Dennis responsible for their expenses in this court case. They did this each tie they thought they had won. Very interesting if GOV is demanding Dennis pay their expenses then, guess what now that they have lost the shoe in the eyes of the court reverses in particular if you have been asking all along to have your fees paid. Courts kinda look poorly on people who ask numerous times to be paid for there expenses when they think they are going to win and when they lose they normally get severally jammed by the judge if they are asked to now pay by client and even attempt to argue why they should not inlight of the way they asked earlier on.

There is no reason in Gods green Earth McInnes Cooper will get 65,000.000.00

The 30% fees the firm has asked for in the beginning is simply an industry standard. Most cases taken on Pro Bono in Canada ask for this amount. This is if we won a bit of money and the lawyer had some risk involved with litigation. I know this as I had been injured in an MVA and sued for damages, and won. The Fees are quite high considering the $168000.00 spent to fight this by our law firm. Other large lawsuit victory have compensated the Lawyers with 3 or 4 or 5%. This 17.83% should be reduced. Great job legal, but please don't take away 6.5 years of my backpay.
Chimo

Oiler ,

Your last statement said it all , we simply " Hope " for the Best , & please god Justice Barnes will put some of the 17.7% back into the pockets of it's " Rightful Owners "

For Country
Retired Army Master Sniper
Dave Fitzpatrick

Did anyone see your pay outs i didn't so how do you know what is going to happen??? Sure legal fees are high i signed up for 30% did you? No one else took the case...Yes all fees are going to be high taxs are going to f us but the war is over guys sit back go write your letters make yourself happy but it is not going to change anything.. Main reason everyone has a different opinion. As i do .. Just breath think positive thoughts.. wait till you get your pay outs scream or whatever talk to a wall.. then collect yourselfs kiss your wife and children and go out to supper....Trust me you will be happier for this ....for those whom don't agree thats fine and i hope you all the best...

chimo out

Getting back to the topic at hand as brought up numerous times and most recently by Recon031 & RobbieRoyal both well seasoned & respected Soldiers , Hopefully with all the written letters forwarded to Justice Barnes this might influence him to take a serious look at either reducing CRA Taxes or The Legal Fees as these Veterans are about to take a Major hit when all these Taxes & Legal Fees for the GOC 's ILLEGAL Clawback .

14 Days and Counting , to get your letters in .

my last was posted under wrong topic, i am not under nvc and dont understand it enough to make anymore comments

mfors, not all true. My hubby is under the old system and has to fill out med forms every year for SISIP.

And now that SISIP does not claw back the DVA payment, we are all on the same playing field as far as SISIP is concerned.

Not sure what point you are trying to make.

Sabrelove

ya you say that but the peeps that are on it do not.they get 5-10 years of what they would have got under dva.ya maybe more for some if they apply and maybe if they do they will even get accepted.this buyout is the biggest battle we have to fight in this war on vets the frackin goc is waging against us.not one vet under the new system i have talked to has nothing but hatered over this buyout and these are moastly fairly shatered infantry.yup you might love this plan you are not on but i have to look these people in the face every week ore two and i will not turn my back on them.

YOU CAN TELL THEM HOW GOOD THEY GOT IT.I SURE THE HELL AINT.

propat

for all people who judging the goc about taxes and fees on retro and how bad they are....
judge them for all the monie they gave you over the years and how some of it not taxed... we are very lucky!!! regarding the NVC i am not apart of it, yes they did lose pension but did get large cash sum followed by payments from sisip ........ elb sorta like our vac pentions ... also payments from sisip larger than ours because they did not have VAC pension to deduct... what it comes down to is people under old system do not have to fill out doctor forms every year... they still getting same amount of money as us under old system just coming in different way.... nvc made sisip pay more

Ex-Para wrote:Thanks Sparrow; I thought there was that lawyer in Ontario that offered his services for free to all veterans? Perhaps he could help your husband. I guess, I just get a little upset when I see everybody being but ahead of the Vet, the GOC, the TAXMAN, the LAW FIRM ,DVA , SISIP, Dennis Manuge than finally the VET. Everytime we ask a question, I am made to feel like a idiot; if I get a return call at all. I completely understand why others are frustrated and pissed off. When the asked me to jump, I said how high everytime.

Thanks Ex-Para, I have contacted several lawyers in Ontario, one in B.C. and of course Daniel Wallace at McInness Cooper who represented a vet with similiar circumstances as my spouse however no luck. I even contacted the Law Society of Upper Canada for a lawyer referral with no success. Lawyers do not want to go up against Government, Military or VRAB tribunals. In terms of finding a lawyer to represent pro bono it is impossible. No funds available anymore from Equitas Society either. Lawyer hourly fees are $300 on average. Furthermore, to be successful against VRAB we need specialists to make direct link on paper between military service and disease. I will keep researching but our hopes are dwindling. We only have one more appeal left so we need to make it the best possible chance. Thank you for caring we appreciate it. This is why our Sisip case we should consider ourselves fortunate to have what we have. We could have lost end stop. So I count my blessings.
Sparrow