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Critical Injury Benefit (CIB)

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Post by Nemo Tue 01 Dec 2015, 13:01

Yeah Slaket. If deemed disabled and unable to work under CPP and Sisip...then why not TPI?
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Post by Slaket Tue 01 Dec 2015, 10:11

Propaganda hush money. That's basically what this is.. Looks really good and caring to the public and it gives Joe public the warm and fuzzy happy feeling that the GoC is looking after wounded Vets. Therefore they don't look into the fine print as surely they (GoC) would not screw the Vets over...

Hey it's great for those that received it, however there are many Vets rated near or over 100% disability and don't qualify.
Seeing VAC recognizes no more then 100% would that not equate to maximum awards/grants etc.
In other words the Veteran would be entitled to all..no questions asked..

Same Idea as fully disabled granted by SISSIP but TPI not by VAC...WTF
Please someone explain that..And two different entities with two different criteria is not an answer!!
Completely disabled is completely disabled..

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Post by czerv Mon 30 Nov 2015, 18:23

When it was written up they knew very well what they were doing. Looks great on paper that Veteran is being offered this and looked after when needed.

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Post by bigrex Mon 30 Nov 2015, 16:58

I agree, but the way the CIB is written, the only way that someone will qualify for psychological conditions, will be if they lose it immediately after the critical incident, and spend enough time in the hospital to qualify. And the way hospitals are nowadays, the only way you will stay in long enough to qualify, you would need to be on life support. I've had four major surgeries in the last 12 years, including emergency spinal surgery, and the longest I've been hospitalized afterwards was 4 days. Also, having worked in a hospital, there are various wards, that are for serious cases, but not called "intensive care". You have Critical Care (CCU), Intermediate Care (IMCU), Cardiac Care, Etc. So even though you may be hospitalized, the fact that you may not be in the ICU the entire time time, you could be denied because of wording.

In all honesty, this should have been a benefit offered by DND, not VAC, since once the retro payments to 2006 are made, the only people that will get it going into the future will be still serving members
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Post by Pipes Mon 30 Nov 2015, 13:13

Going through Bill C59 the CIB looks like only those who suffer physical injuries and are hospitalized will qualify for the CIB. They will get this for the pain and suffering for the duration of their treatment, therapy. What about those with PTSD? They suffer also and go through intensive care sometimes for years. Should the CIB cover both physical and psychological trauma's equally? It seems to me that this benefit should include both or that there should be a CIB for psychological injuries also.

Suffering is suffering....

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Post by Guest Tue 20 Oct 2015, 18:56

Nice to see you post Teen

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Post by Teentitan Tue 20 Oct 2015, 18:24

I do know that the OVO is keeping track of all the new benefits for a year to make sure they are effective. If not then a report will be written.
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Post by johnny211 Tue 20 Oct 2015, 17:23

redfisher - I know of only one afgan wounded comrade who has put in for it. I don't think it got approved yet. Of anyone, this lad deserves it. VVV...
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Post by Guest Tue 20 Oct 2015, 16:25

Has anyone recieved the Critical Injury Benefit?

If you have been denied what were the reasons?

It seems to me that there are alot of exclusions VAC has made in order to restrict who may qualify and get the Critical Injury Benefit. Almost to the point that virtually nobody will qualify.

Opinions?

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Post by bigrex Tue 11 Aug 2015, 19:08

I think that one possible way to improve the CIB, is to to remove the single event criteria, and change it so that anyone suffering any of these consequences due to your disability, then you should be entitle to the CIB. If you have PTSD, and are hospitalized because of it, you get the CIB, regardless of how long it has been since you were diagnosed. The same as physical disabilities. If you have had to undergo major surgery for your recognized medical condition, even several years later, then you should be entitled to the CIB as well.
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Post by Guest Mon 06 Jul 2015, 08:21

Won't be many people approved for this benefit. Many applications but few approved. This benefit was created for afghan vets injured. Anyone else....notta

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Post by 6608 Wed 01 Jul 2015, 12:34

More info posted on VAC site on CIB see below
http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/services/after-injury/critical-injury-benefit

Critical Injury Benefit

The Critical Injury Benefit is a tax-free lump sum award.
Eligibility details
Canadian Armed Forces members or military Veterans may be eligible if they experienced a severe and traumatic injury or acute disease which:
*was service-related;
*was the result of a sudden and single incident occurring on or after April 1, 2006; and
*immediately caused a severe impairment and interference in quality of life.
Severe impairment and interference in quality of life
For the purposes of the Critical Injury Benefit, at least one of the following must apply to you:
Amputation
*An amputation at or above the wrist or ankle
Conditions of less than 12 weeks
*Admitted to intensive care for at least five days.
*Hospitalized and required multiple surgeries or a ventilator or had other complicated treatment or medical interventions.
Conditions that lasted 12 weeks or more
*Hospitalized
*Blind in both eyes
*Paralysis of one or more limbs
*Loss of control of kidneys, bladder or bowel
Conditions that lasted 16 weeks or more
*Required assistance with three or more of the following activities: eating, bathing, walking, toileting or transferring (e.g. from bed  
to chair)


This new benefit has received Royal Assent and Veterans Affairs Canada will be accepting applications. Please call us at 1-866-522-2122.




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Post by Guest Tue 02 Jun 2015, 08:48

If they weren't careful about the guidelines for approving boat loads would apply. Initial vets will read the eligibility guidelines and see one would have to be this or have had that and say screw it what's the point. I think few will get it....but very few will apply as well. Only because they will read the eligibility guidelines and think..."nah I won't be approved, screw it". Let's face it a dollar saved is a dollar the goc can pat themselves on the back for. For example the surplus that was given back...over a billion dollars. People....its all smoke and mirrors...if this government gets voted back in....we would be true idiots. I hope that's not the case

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Post by Guest Tue 02 Jun 2015, 00:53

Would a guy who had a previous injury in service, that was treated and was no longer a medical concern for duty, be eligible for CIB if they injured the same part of their body in theatre?

Given that they passed the extensive medical exam and then given the green light to go on tour, would this' green light' mean that the recent injury is new and is eligible for CIB, OR would VAC disallow the claim because there was a previous injury it that area of the body?
Hmmm seems like a lot of Vets would not be able to claim CIB if there is anything in their medical files that suggests that there was a previous injury.
Sounds like a loop hole to get out of paying CIB.


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Post by Guest Mon 01 Jun 2015, 23:55

This is true

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