I may have asked this question before, How are PTSD and Depression NOT separate VAC claims
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Re: I may have asked this question before, How are PTSD and Depression NOT separate VAC claims
that`s where I get confused, I realize VAC states that PTSD,anxiety,depression are all under one blanket, but what if one or more of these conditions are causing a new condition?bigrex wrote:it would really depend on why they think you are getting the headaches. If they only happen after being out among people, it could be caused by anxiety, and a rise n blood pressure, or they could be caused by an undiagnosed neurological condition.
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Re: I may have asked this question before, How are PTSD and Depression NOT separate VAC claims
it would really depend on why they think you are getting the headaches. If they only happen after being out among people, it could be caused by anxiety, and a rise n blood pressure, or they could be caused by an undiagnosed neurological condition.
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Re: I may have asked this question before, How are PTSD and Depression NOT separate VAC claims
What about sever headaches/migraines are they a separate claim, or do they fall under you get headaches because you have PTSD, or Depression or Anxiety or Alcoholism or...
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Oh my all this is just to frazzling for me. VAC agitates the bejesus out of me. It’s been at Step 3 since Aug 2017 and when adjudicated it will probably be denied Well that’s just cruel.
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Re: I may have asked this question before, How are PTSD and Depression NOT separate VAC claims
Newfie wrote:czerv, an guess on % for IBS? Should I be lucky enough to be awarded on my consequential claim. Thanks
http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/services/after-injury/disability-benefits/benefits-determined/table-of-disabilities/ch-14-2006#t05
Table 14.5 - Other Impairment - Small Bowel, Large Bowel, Rectum and Anus
is the TD I presume that would fall under for IBS
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Re: I may have asked this question before, How are PTSD and Depression NOT separate VAC claims
Sorry Newfie, do not know. It is probably written somewhere but navigating VAC info is like looking for a needle in .... . I guess they should hire few hundred more to make it more user friendly.
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czerv, an guess on % for IBS? Should I be lucky enough to be awarded on my consequential claim. Thanks
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Re: I may have asked this question before, How are PTSD and Depression NOT separate VAC claims
This is from the Entitlement guidelines for PTSD
B. Medical Conditions Which Are To Be Included in Entitlement/Assessment
NOTE: If specific conditions are listed for a category, only these conditions are included in the entitlement and assessment of Posttraumatic Stress Disorder. If no conditions are listed for a category, all conditions within the category are included in the entitlement and assessment of Posttraumatic Stress Disorder.
•Other Trauma- and Stressor-Related Disorders
•Anxiety Disorders
•Obsessive-Compulsive and Related Disorders
•Depressive Disorders
•Bipolar and Related Disorders
•Schizophrenia Spectrum and other Psychotic Disorders
•Personality Disorders
•Feeding and Eating Disorders
•Substance-Related and Addictive Disorders
•Dissociative Disorders
•Somatic Symptom and Related Disorders ◦Somatic Symptom Disorder
◦Illness Anxiety Disorder
◦Conversion Disorder
•Pain Disorders/Chronic Pain Syndrome (DSM-IV-TR Axis I Diagnosis)
•Sleep-Wake Disorders ◦Insomnia Disorder
◦Hypersomnolence Disorder
•Neurodevelopmental Disorders ◦Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder
•Decreased Libido - if the medical information indicates decreased libido is a symptom of a psychiatric condition
So when making a claim for PTSD, all of these other conditions would be considered as simply covered by the PTSD approval. That is why people have been approved for consequential claims for TMJ, and sleep apnea, because they are the physical consequences of PTSD. As far as Erectile Dysfunction is concerned, it's quite possible to be considered a consequential claim, because the inability to become erect when aroused, is vastly different than the inability to become aroused (loss of libido).
B. Medical Conditions Which Are To Be Included in Entitlement/Assessment
NOTE: If specific conditions are listed for a category, only these conditions are included in the entitlement and assessment of Posttraumatic Stress Disorder. If no conditions are listed for a category, all conditions within the category are included in the entitlement and assessment of Posttraumatic Stress Disorder.
•Other Trauma- and Stressor-Related Disorders
•Anxiety Disorders
•Obsessive-Compulsive and Related Disorders
•Depressive Disorders
•Bipolar and Related Disorders
•Schizophrenia Spectrum and other Psychotic Disorders
•Personality Disorders
•Feeding and Eating Disorders
•Substance-Related and Addictive Disorders
•Dissociative Disorders
•Somatic Symptom and Related Disorders ◦Somatic Symptom Disorder
◦Illness Anxiety Disorder
◦Conversion Disorder
•Pain Disorders/Chronic Pain Syndrome (DSM-IV-TR Axis I Diagnosis)
•Sleep-Wake Disorders ◦Insomnia Disorder
◦Hypersomnolence Disorder
•Neurodevelopmental Disorders ◦Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder
•Decreased Libido - if the medical information indicates decreased libido is a symptom of a psychiatric condition
So when making a claim for PTSD, all of these other conditions would be considered as simply covered by the PTSD approval. That is why people have been approved for consequential claims for TMJ, and sleep apnea, because they are the physical consequences of PTSD. As far as Erectile Dysfunction is concerned, it's quite possible to be considered a consequential claim, because the inability to become erect when aroused, is vastly different than the inability to become aroused (loss of libido).
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GAD
What about Generalized Anxiety Disorder?...separate claim, or is that too also considered "just" PTSD?
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Re: I may have asked this question before, How are PTSD and Depression NOT separate VAC claims
Artie,
This is a puzzle for me also. I guess they lump it together so your % stays lower ... Put ED as a separate claim (and that is good). Consequential to PTSD, use of medication, etd. Shoul be 'worth' about 20% (if I am not mistaken).
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This is a puzzle for me also. I guess they lump it together so your % stays lower ... Put ED as a separate claim (and that is good). Consequential to PTSD, use of medication, etd. Shoul be 'worth' about 20% (if I am not mistaken).
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Re: I may have asked this question before, How are PTSD and Depression NOT separate VAC claims
but, something like my erectile dysfunction would be a separate claim, or would VAC " oh you have that because you have ptsd,"
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It's because they are both considered mental health conditions, and are considered "bracketed" for the DA. The same often happens with Degenerative Disk Disease, and Stenosis. Even though they are different diagnosis, they both affect the same part of the body.
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I may have asked this question before, How are PTSD and Depression NOT separate VAC claims
I know vets who have become alcoholics due to their time in the military, I also know soldiers diagnosed with Depression and still others with PTSD, and all may have that one claim in with VAC for review. And yet its possible for a vet to have 1,2, or all 3 conditions that were caused by different experiences he/she suffered during their career and each disease is causing them different types of disability...and yet if you claim more than one ailment, VAC just lumps everything together as PTSD. How is that? A Doctor will tell you Depression is a separate condition than PTSD, why does not a professionals take on this matter to VAC?
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