Re: APAS vs EIA

by Guest Sat 04 May 2019, 13:46

Iceman wrote:CIA is now called APSC, and is tax free.

However, for eligibility, you no longer need to be on a rehab plan.

so if a veteran was on the lowest grade of cia ( $500 tax free) and his disabilities became worse their percentages went up and QOL went way down, could they fill out that form and expect it to be considered for an upgrade to $1000 or $1500.? What are the stipulations to be considered for these various increases?

by **Iceman** Sat 04 May 2019, 10:07

CIA is now called APSC, and is tax free.

However, for eligibility, you no longer need to be on a rehab plan.

by Guest Sat 04 May 2019, 09:31

6608 wrote:Propat, i think you should get more sleep........lol Actually the key eligibility difference between the two benefits is that under CIA, a Veteran must have an approved rehabilitation plan in order to receive the CIA. Under APSC, a Veteran must only have a barrier to re-establishment to qualify, they do not have to have an approved rehabilitation plan.

Cheers

So CIA and it`s levels are not the same thing as APSC?, i.e can a veteran be receiving say $500 for CIA and still be entitled to APSC ?, I thought as of april 1 CIA became lower in payment (but tax free) and renamed APSC. And if a veteran can be entitled to both CIA AND APSC, what are the levels of APSC, is it also $500, $1000, $1500 etc?

by 6608 Fri 03 May 2019, 18:25

Propat, i think you should get more sleep........lol Actually the key eligibility difference between the two benefits is that under CIA, a Veteran must have an approved rehabilitation plan in order to receive the CIA. Under APSC, a Veteran must only have a barrier to re-establishment to qualify, they do not have to have an approved rehabilitation plan.

Cheers

by propat Fri 03 May 2019, 17:11

oops sorry my bad must have been half asleep . that was for the increase or CIAS witch is gone now. the APAS would require you had a application for rehab approved . sorry for mixing those two up . sadly that's not the first time I mixed those same ones up must be getting old lol.

propat

by Guest Fri 03 May 2019, 09:11

propat wrote:not sure what you mean exactly by " applied for through the CM" . if you are not DEC yet you will need that designation to apply for the APAS that will require your CMs involvement but im not sure how heavily your CMs opinion weighs on the DEC decision any more. as for the individual benefits as always if you have a CM its good to have them on your side .

propat

that was a term that was sent to me in an e-mail, about asking ones CM about it, however, on the myvacaccount, there is a form for APAS that it just seems you fill out yourself and submit, no CM involvement, it automatically loads all your disabilities and it asks you how they interfore with your life and then you just send it off yourself, it didn`t really say anything about DEC

by propat Fri 03 May 2019, 08:07

not sure what you mean exactly by " applied for through the CM" . if you are not DEC yet you will need that designation to apply for the APAS that will require your CMs involvement but im not sure how heavily your CMs opinion weighs on the DEC decision any more. as for the individual benefits as always if you have a CM its good to have them on your side .

propat

by **bigrex** Fri 03 May 2019, 07:32

Yes, but at 98% disabled, you would be paid at 100%.

by Guest Thu 02 May 2019, 22:55

propat wrote:honestly it isn't a simple answer . your taxable income use to be a factor now not a factor .

some may say APS because the criteria to go up levels is less stringent . well although I kind of agree I do disagree in part . explaining that would take some time .

some will say since the changes EIA pays more witch of cores is true but that depends on the levels .

EIA has 5 levels APS has 3.

if you look at the criteria in my opinion its easier to get the lowest level of APS but I also think the differences in criteria in the EIA levels are small in my opinion thus actually easier to move up levels .

if you already believe you meet the criteria for both I suggest you take a deeper dive and see what levels you believe you will qualify for each .

just my point of view if others disagree its hard to argue but EIA is a PA benefit and that alone sells me and that's what id be going after .

ya see year after fracking year they keep changing those NVC benefits or whatever they are calling it now . those changes they constantly make are mostly not good for vets.

with all the time they are spending fracking over NVC vets it seems they have no time left at all to frack over PA vets . they done forgot about us SHHHHUSH don't tell no one lol.

so ya for that reason id do that . thing is its a crap shoot either way.

hope this helps

propat

thanks, I have found what I`m looking for, regardless of the path are both of these applied for through your CM?

by Guest Thu 02 May 2019, 22:51

bigrex wrote:Are you 100% disabled? If not, then you are not eligible for EIA. But if you do actually meet the criteria for both, you might as well just stick with the APSA. Sure you could maybe get more from the EIA, with the two extra grade levels, but you are just as likely to get less.So why take that chance?

I thought EIA was 98%?

by **bigrex** Thu 02 May 2019, 22:24

Plus, on the off chance that some party reinstates the CIAS, or something similar in the future, it may not extend to the EIA.

by propat Thu 02 May 2019, 18:28

honestly it isn't a simple answer . your taxable income use to be a factor now not a factor .

some may say APS because the criteria to go up levels is less stringent . well although I kind of agree I do disagree in part . explaining that would take some time .

some will say since the changes EIA pays more witch of cores is true but that depends on the levels .

EIA has 5 levels APS has 3.

if you look at the criteria in my opinion its easier to get the lowest level of APS but I also think the differences in criteria in the EIA levels are small in my opinion thus actually easier to move up levels .

if you already believe you meet the criteria for both I suggest you take a deeper dive and see what levels you believe you will qualify for each .

just my point of view if others disagree its hard to argue but EIA is a PA benefit and that alone sells me and that's what id be going after .

ya see year after fracking year they keep changing those NVC benefits or whatever they are calling it now . those changes they constantly make are mostly not good for vets.

with all the time they are spending fracking over NVC vets it seems they have no time left at all to frack over PA vets . they done forgot about us SHHHHUSH don't tell no one lol.

so ya for that reason id do that . thing is its a crap shoot either way.

hope this helps

propat

by **bigrex** Thu 02 May 2019, 17:58

Are you 100% disabled? If not, then you are not eligible for EIA. But if you do actually meet the criteria for both, you might as well just stick with the APSA. Sure you could maybe get more from the EIA, with the two extra grade levels, but you are just as likely to get less.So why take that chance?

by Guest Thu 02 May 2019, 17:51

Sleeping Dog wrote:Additional Pain And Suffering Versus Exceptional Incapacity Allowance. If a veteran meets the criteria for both but has applied for neither, which is the better option, pros, cons or are there any.?

you do know there is a section that is for vac benefits, or are you trying to make a point? Good question by the way, would also like to know the answer.

by Guest Thu 02 May 2019, 17:16

Additional Pain And Suffering Versus Exceptional Incapacity Allowance. If a veteran meets the criteria for both but has applied for neither, which is the better option, pros, cons or are there any.?

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