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propat wrote:hi guys interesting thoughts . have been very busy and will be for a while . looks like some interesting research needs to be done . in lui of any research ill give ya my thoughts on this .

I believe the last MAJOR changes to the QR+Os were done by Canada alone . may have required a signature from the gov gen or queen as expected but these were Canada specific changes so this can be done again . so I believe this can be done again .

however regardless of this no laws legislation regulations ect ect should exist that are in direct conflict with the constitution or charter .if found can be legally challenged and if the courts agree they don't pass the smell test they must be changed .

now from what I understand of the RCMP case  they had their own rules to go by witch prevented them from having a union . they challenged this I believe framed it as a right to assembly case .

the supreme court agreed that their rules interfered with their right to assembly and are entitled to some form of collective bargaining up to and including a union .

now I don't know much about the QR+Os but even thou I think there might be something in there preventing a union I'm not entirely citrine there is .will have to look .ether way if there is something there to prevent it it can be challenged and if the judge agrees changed .

propat

propat wrote:hi guys interesting thoughts . have been very busy and will be for a while . looks like some interesting research needs to be done . in lui of any research ill give ya my thoughts on this .

I believe the last MAJOR changes to the QR+Os were done by Canada alone . may have required a signature from the gov gen or queen as expected but these were Canada specific changes so this can be done again . so I believe this can be done again .

however regardless of this no laws legislation regulations ect ect should exist that are in direct conflict with the constitution or charter .if found can be legally challenged and if the courts agree they don't pass the smell test they must be changed .

now from what I understand of the RCMP case  they had their own rules to go by witch prevented them from having a union . they challenged this I believe framed it as a right to assembly case .

the supreme court agreed that their rules interfered with their right to assembly and are entitled to some form of collective bargaining up to and including

now I don't know much about the QR+Os but even thou I think there might be something in there preventing a union I'm not entirely citrine there is .will have to look .ether way if there is something there to prevent it it can be challenged and if the judge agrees changed .

propat

Admin wrote:By the Bay, almost but not quite. The Supplementary Reserve is for any member leaving the Regular or Reserve components. It is not restricted to any one MOC. Any releasing member can request to be put on the Supplementary Reserve list, or not to be included on the list. The only restrictions to those that want to be on the list are the terms of their release. For example, released for medical reasons or dishonourable releases.

BinRat wrote:Sorry to say By-The-Bay Ex military are Public servants...

Cause I remember someone who was released crated something that he claimed the IP (Intellectual Property) right for and lost.. because it was that he was part of the supp list
and was therefore a public servant..

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/military-veteran-government-intellectual-property-1.3475301

"In February, a Federal Court of Appeal ruling determined that anyone whose name is on the Canadian Armed Forces' supplementary reserve list — even if he or she receives no pay or benefits — is considered a public servant"

So, re-reading it, maybe after you leave and are on the Supp list only you are a public servant, I am not to sure, but in this case they were saying he was on Supp List and is a PS.

propat wrote:ya guys thanks . I do appreciate that but I'm no leader don't even want that tag . maybe because of the military experience don't have a lot of time foe most of them however some were ok. and yup some VAC people are good I actually met one and am sure there has to be more out there .

the union thing I believe can be done at least for the serving military. a thing I would have absolutely resented prior to 2006 . however when I seen the FACTS of the NVC . well my opinion changed big time . from not at all required to absolutely mandatory , a must have if you will .

I get by the bays point and she is not wrong but I'm not entirely sure dues would be required from vets and in the outside chance we would be included in an association status nothing beyond half the percentage a military member is paying and just on your military pension.

by the bay is right again an expensive venture but I believe the start up costs can be found through corporate donations . it will inevitably be up to serving members if they can afford to have it or can they afford not to have it .

I believe we/ they cant afford not to have it . if we had it in 04 the improvements in the NVC would not have been in the NVC at all but added to the PA and VRAB would have been fixed or replaced with a fair system ta boot .

GAME ON

propat