Report ~ Harjit Sajjan hints at a Canadian military mission in Libya
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Re: Report ~ Harjit Sajjan hints at a Canadian military mission in Libya
I pretty much agree with you nemo.
Yet, what happens when mitigated tolerance meets a war crime?
Yet, what happens when mitigated tolerance meets a war crime?
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Re: Report ~ Harjit Sajjan hints at a Canadian military mission in Libya
I agree Nemo leave them over there let them fight it out may the worst of the worst win lock it down nothing in or out and let them live in the sixteenth century and allow that religion only be practiced there until it is brought up to modern day thinking impose sanctions on any country that has any dealings with them. the only thing they respect is brutality and force if your not going in there to kick the living schitt out of them then leave them alone until they try to produce or buy weapons of mass destruction then hammer them. there is a country right now that is more threat than them that needs its nose bloodied and it's nuke facilities destroyed.
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Re: Report ~ Harjit Sajjan hints at a Canadian military mission in Libya
I doubt that Canada or others can do much in Libya to make a difference. I was against the war based on lies of WMD in Iraq that led to the eventual downfall, capture and execution of Saddam. Saddam was evil but like other dictators, his brutal rule kept the region relatively cohesive unlike the situation we see today. So I think we can blame Bush for the rise of ISIS and for what we are seeing in places like Syria, Iraq and Libya today. When Bush talked of going into Iraq, it was clear he had a grossly inaccurate understanding of how his military intervention would be greeted by a Muslim population.
And I do not believe that ISIS or groups like ISIS will ever be defeated. To use the word defeat when dealing with these groups means that there is a misunderstanding of the tentacles that these groups have globally. We are not going to change the face of Islam. We are not going to defeat the Taliban. Afghanistan will never be a nice country to visit. Same can be said for many other Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran. So called Islamic extremism will be with us forever. So we might win a battle here and there but we will never win the war. That is reality. And I say so called Islamic extremism because many millions of Muslims will say they are merely practicing their religion.
And I do not believe that ISIS or groups like ISIS will ever be defeated. To use the word defeat when dealing with these groups means that there is a misunderstanding of the tentacles that these groups have globally. We are not going to change the face of Islam. We are not going to defeat the Taliban. Afghanistan will never be a nice country to visit. Same can be said for many other Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran. So called Islamic extremism will be with us forever. So we might win a battle here and there but we will never win the war. That is reality. And I say so called Islamic extremism because many millions of Muslims will say they are merely practicing their religion.
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Re: Report ~ Harjit Sajjan hints at a Canadian military mission in Libya
Start taking care of our soldiers before putting them in harms way!
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Re: Report ~ Harjit Sajjan hints at a Canadian military mission in Libya
Italy taking the lead sorta like putting the cart before the a$$ you might say. Here is a thought stop in germany and pick up some decent equipment for our soldiers pertection their going to need it.
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Report ~ Harjit Sajjan hints at a Canadian military mission in Libya
Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan says Canada could soon join a military coalition to take on ISIS in Libya, a country beset by a civil war and mounting Islamic terrorism.
"I had a good meeting with my counterpart, the minister of defence from Italy, [on military intervention in Libya]," Sajjan said following a NATO defence ministers' meeting in Brussels..
"Italy is willing to take the lead on this; once we have a good understanding of the political situation, that will allow us to figure out what we need to do," said in an interview with Chris Hall on CBC Radio's The House.
More than four years after Moammar Gadhafi was deposed — in large part due to Western military intervention — Islamic State militants have taken advantage of the resulting political vacuum to establish themselves in Libya's coastal cities.
An estimated 3,000 ISIS fighters are in the country, which has been attracting more foreign recruits in recent months as the journey to Iraq and Syria has become more difficult with Turkey tightening its border with Syria.
Italy has said it wants a leadership role in stabilizing Libya — one of its former colonial possessions — because it is located less than 300 km from the Italian island of Lampedusa.
ISIS-backed elements have carried out several attacks on oil installations, and at least 60 were killed by an suicide bombing against a Libyan police training center earlier this month.
"Before we can actually say 'Yes we're interested,' 'Yes we can do this,' we're doing what all responsible coalition partners should do [asses the political and security situation] and then decide if we have the right capabilities to assist in this mission.
"We will be part of that conversation," Sajjan said.
The defence minister said that any military action in Libya would be based on lessons learned from Canada's experience in Afghanistan.
"It's all about fighting smarter ... there needs to be a political structure in place that you can reinforce so that when you have the military gains you then have a political structure," to safeguard peace and quell ethnic tensions, he said.
At the recent anti-ISIS meeting in Paris — Canada was not invited — Roberta Pinotti, Italy's defence minister, said action must be taken to beat back advances made by the Islamic State.
"We cannot imagine waiting until spring while the situation in Libya is still frozen," she said. "Efforts to resolve the Libyan crisis must be coordinated internationally," Pinotti added, warning that "it is impossible for the international intervention to wait until the upcoming spring."
Pinotti said that there was "total agreement" among the coalition partners at the Paris meeting that Libya's government should ask the West for help to fight ISIS, to avoid fuelling "jihadist propaganda" of yet another "Western invasion."
She went on to say that the so-called Islamic State was strengthening in the current political vacuum, prompting Italy and its allies to prepare for an "emergency," adding that the United States recently has expressed "a greater concern" over ISIS militants in Libya.
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thehouse/tom-mulcair-takes-responsibility-for-ndp-s-extremely-cautious-campaign-1.3443873/harjit-sajjan-hints-at-a-canadian-military-mission-in-libya-1.3446865
"I had a good meeting with my counterpart, the minister of defence from Italy, [on military intervention in Libya]," Sajjan said following a NATO defence ministers' meeting in Brussels..
"Italy is willing to take the lead on this; once we have a good understanding of the political situation, that will allow us to figure out what we need to do," said in an interview with Chris Hall on CBC Radio's The House.
More than four years after Moammar Gadhafi was deposed — in large part due to Western military intervention — Islamic State militants have taken advantage of the resulting political vacuum to establish themselves in Libya's coastal cities.
An estimated 3,000 ISIS fighters are in the country, which has been attracting more foreign recruits in recent months as the journey to Iraq and Syria has become more difficult with Turkey tightening its border with Syria.
Italy has said it wants a leadership role in stabilizing Libya — one of its former colonial possessions — because it is located less than 300 km from the Italian island of Lampedusa.
ISIS-backed elements have carried out several attacks on oil installations, and at least 60 were killed by an suicide bombing against a Libyan police training center earlier this month.
"Before we can actually say 'Yes we're interested,' 'Yes we can do this,' we're doing what all responsible coalition partners should do [asses the political and security situation] and then decide if we have the right capabilities to assist in this mission.
"We will be part of that conversation," Sajjan said.
The defence minister said that any military action in Libya would be based on lessons learned from Canada's experience in Afghanistan.
"It's all about fighting smarter ... there needs to be a political structure in place that you can reinforce so that when you have the military gains you then have a political structure," to safeguard peace and quell ethnic tensions, he said.
At the recent anti-ISIS meeting in Paris — Canada was not invited — Roberta Pinotti, Italy's defence minister, said action must be taken to beat back advances made by the Islamic State.
"We cannot imagine waiting until spring while the situation in Libya is still frozen," she said. "Efforts to resolve the Libyan crisis must be coordinated internationally," Pinotti added, warning that "it is impossible for the international intervention to wait until the upcoming spring."
Pinotti said that there was "total agreement" among the coalition partners at the Paris meeting that Libya's government should ask the West for help to fight ISIS, to avoid fuelling "jihadist propaganda" of yet another "Western invasion."
She went on to say that the so-called Islamic State was strengthening in the current political vacuum, prompting Italy and its allies to prepare for an "emergency," adding that the United States recently has expressed "a greater concern" over ISIS militants in Libya.
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thehouse/tom-mulcair-takes-responsibility-for-ndp-s-extremely-cautious-campaign-1.3443873/harjit-sajjan-hints-at-a-canadian-military-mission-in-libya-1.3446865
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