VRAB Application

Next I will teach you about 10 simple tests so you can Self Prove your Decision Letter is a fake. Very easy tests for you. Stay Tuned.Much to teach everyone. Please let as many people as you can read these posts until I get my site up and running and books finished.

Thank You

Quote - To help a Veteran, a current Serviceman or Service Woman, a current R.C.M.P or Vet is a service back to those who have and still serve us.         metaller 2017.

Now that you can see that a real adjudication has occurred in the CSDN electronic system awarding you say 3/5 as  a service related disease or injury and you seem to have been sent a fake disability letter from VAC from the old electronic system awarding you only 1/5 you might want to learn how to make a Statement of Claim against the minister of VAC and VAC itself. While you are waiting for a Statement of defence from the Justice Office, you can submit a NOTICE OF MOTION to the courts for a Federal Court order with an enforcement action for the R.C.M.P. to go into the data banks and retrieve your real electronically signed decision letter from data bank 603. I will show you when my site gets up and running how to do this. Next I will show everyone how to use the electronic application at ATIP for requesting your documents and to report the fraud from past present or future illegal hard copy files found on your cd's to the ATIP Director and Team Leads as these stay in the electronic system. I will show you how to report any fraud to the Office of the Veterans Ombudsman Office through their electronic system as well as the inconsistencies this office has on their site and electronic application document. Also to show everyone anything reported into this electronic system is found in data bank 210 at ATIP and you will be told that OVO has their own ATIP, don't listen to this. If ATIP doesn't give you your documents from the system, you can get the federal court order for your documents. I will show everyone how to use these systems to put people in a position of liability, I will show how to use an audio recorder to put the workers in a position of liability, so you can take them to civil court and compensate your selves from them.VAC's and other offices ideology seems to be take us to court, when all you have to do is take the workers to court for their actions. Why go after a giant with all the resources when you can simply teach others how to get their money. This is what it is all about.They take, we take back with the use of knowledge. if the federal courts get tied up, then I guess they better start operating in accordance with legislation they are required to.

Still waiting for my Application form from VRAB so I can have my review with MY CHOICE OF REPRESENTAVE, lots of time on my hands to teach others. VRAB must be asleep and that is why they haven't given it to me.

There won't be any lawsuits, the Justice Dept. seems to have already already seen to that. They  seemed to have already contacted the law society who seemed to have contacted all lawyers. I phoned to have a free consultation and am told in the phone call that its not free, I have to pay up front for the consultation. I called a lawyer and the manager asked my name and you could hear her flipping through the pages of a book after she found my name she asked for my representatives name and again you could hear her flipping through the pages until she found his name and then said I would have to pay for the consultation. That is because they already know they aren't taking the case on and want to be paid for their time.

The best way to fight this is to show everyone how to stop them from using this system.
If you are applying for disability benefits, don't mail in the application or medical documents. Go directly to the Veterans Affairs Canada office and take an audio recorder and a witness with you, tell the clerk that you are audio recording the conversation and that you are submitting your application for disability and want all your documents stamped received in front of you before they leave your sight. Ask for a copy of the stamped documents also.These documents can't be used in the illegal files now because they are stamped received by VAC with the date. I see in the paper all the time, veterans not getting approved for family caregiver relief and that is because it seems they are mailing the applications in and receiving fake decision letters generated from the old software telling them they are denied. If these people would have gone to the VAC office and used the audio recorder and a witness, had their document stamped and got copies of the stamped documents, they would have received the $7500 benefit.

When I get time I am making a video to show everyone how the whole system works including all the documents from VAC, ATIP, OVO, Privacy Commission, and the VRAB.
I have decision documents from 2004 and 2007 I found online that have the same adjudicator I had and will show you how she has altered her signature from 2004 , 2007, and 2015 decision letters. I also have a decision letter that was sent to me from a current member of the forces who also has the same adjudicators name and his documents are not real electronic decision letter as well.
I will also teach veterans how VAC seems sends you to get up to date testing when you don't have to, you can go back 2 years in your medical doc's. How the doctors are sending you for testing with no requisitions in your files(the test never happened), the testing facility tells you that you were never there when you try and get a copy of the actual test results under the health act, and how veterans are being put in the lung chamber and given 8 shots of bronchodilator instead of 2 puffs of the puffer, opening there airways up so much that the doctor is transcribing the results as your lungs are good. Then instead of accepting this document in the electronic system, they are hand signing and sending to VAC.
Don't worry, I am just getting started. I will start my video site and drop links all over Canada and outside Canada for allied soldiers on veteran sites, I am currently writing several books to teach everyone the systems including the Korean Veterans who don't know that all the information has been removed from VAC website in regards to 2003 Mortality Study,Australian Veterans of the Korean War, 2003 Cancer Incidence Study Australian Veterans of the Korean War, 2005 Health Study Australian Veterans of the Korean War. Korean Veterans are covered for Peripheral Vascular Disease, Hypertension, Diabetes mellitus Type 2, Congestive Heart Failure, Abdominal Aortic Aneurysm, Atrial Fibrillation, ect that have been removed from the VAC site under Australian Korean War Veterans Studies. In fact they do not list the Health Study 2005 where these diseases are found.
I was told by the minister of veterans affairs to go to my review at VRAB and now VRAB won't give me the application document for me to apply for review, so it seems I am going to cost VAC millions with what I am going to put on my website along with my self published books on Amazon.com and EBAY. I will drop links all over every Veteran site and KIJIJI of course to my site where everyone can learn the system and get their compensation. i will compensate myself with the proceeds of my book sales and won't waste time taking VAC to court as their chink in their armour is their workers. I have enough on ATIP worker to take her and half their office to civil court for their individual actions. I will post on my site a copy of the real CSDN Notebook Documents showing the real adjudication occurred in the CSDN electronic system so you all can see that it has to be electronically signed not a hand signed fake generated from the old software CDN system.
VAC should have used a balance scale and put my $153,000 on one side and what my information is going to cost them on the other side and ran with the wind with the opportunity they were presented with keeping all this quiet. Instead they are standing frozen like deer in front of the headlights. Can't wait to help them compensate everyone especially the family caregiver relief applicants.Obviously they want to see what I am capable of doing with 2 years of investigations and evidence that I can now use for everyones benefit just because it seems VRAB won't give me my application document for review at VRAB. Tsk Tsk Tsk.

i agree there is a lot of info there to try and wrap your head around and will be interesting to see what will or can be done going forward

Metaller - wow that was quite a read for this ptsd brain to take in. But if you are correct, and a law firm can take this on, there would be a crap load of names attached to it.BZ to you..Johnny Out..

Thank You, and thanks to everyone for their service as well. We couldn't have got to where we are without us all serving and our families bearing the pain and suffering as well.
I spent 2 years investigating VAC, ATIP, OVO, Privacy Commission, Service Canada, and VRAB. I have too much to list at this time, but, can assure you I can show people how their decision letters seem to be all fake.
What I mean is if you look in the bottom right corner of your decision letters, you will notice CDN is listed with your CSDN number your decision letter is fake. The CDN system is the previous software used with the old electronic system. This means a real adjudication has ocurred in the new system and you have been awarded a higher award than they are showing you. Atip will not give you these documents, instead fakes are made and put on disk or hardcopies are sent to you.
What seems to be happening is when you mail your application to  Matane, your documents are to be stamped received, scanned into the CSDN system and the old paper documents are then to be destroyed.
What seems to be happening is, when your documents are received in Matane, they are being opened, photo copied so 2 piles of documents exist. The originals are then scanned into the new CSDN electronic system. The photo copied version of your application and med documents are then placed in an envelope, handed to another department who scans the SEALED envelope out and places this envelope in another envelope and mails to head office in PEI. The outside envelope is then opened in PEI, the interior SEALED envelope is scanned into the system, then the envelope is opened and the documents are being placed into an illegal hard copy binder with no privacy protection under the privacy act The double envelope system seems to be used to transport your documents from one location to Head Office in PEI so nothing being sent or received is on any electronic file, only the outside of the envelopes are scanned.You will notice when you order ATIP documents, that in the top right corner that the font size is about a number 2 font reading- Released under the privacy act. This number 2 font is a security feature that can't be reproduced by a common computer as they only go to a number 8 font on microsoft office.
If you order documents from ATIP from the electronic system, you will see that you have many documents that have many documents from here that are not from the electronic system where the software is used to conduct the adjudication. In fact some of your documents are from the illegal hard copy file stored at VAC Head Office.
What seems to be happening- When Matane gets your doc's a real adjudication occurs in the new CSDN system, this is accessed by the disability officer, the adjudicator, ect, from what ever province they are in. In my case I would have been automatically given 100% disability as I have 10 disabilities that are found in the 3 australian korean war veterans studies conducted by the Monash University that proves my disabilities are service related. So, I know I would have a decision letter in the new CSDN system for 100% disability. The old software from the old CDN system is then used to generate a fake decision letter which says you are only awarded 50% disability.and mailed to you in a double envelope. I know this as I dropped my election document off a VAC where it was faxed to PEI, the fax cover says CRAWFORD and ASSOCIATES, after investigating the disability team online, I found Crawford was the team leader at PEI office and the associates are her team. This document was then placed into the illegal hard copy file I was telling you about. Look at your ATIP documents and you will notice every single document that you have sent to VAC has a hole in the top left corner where it was placed in a binder. After ordering my documents from ATIP from data bank 603 the decision data bank I received a cd with over 500 documents from here and other data banks. The worker that made the cd told me in her letter that accompanied the cd from ATIP apologized for the photocopied documents. When I saw this I knew they weren't from the electronic data bank as they would not be photocopied at all as they label them with the number 2 font -Released under the privacy act and then found the ATIP Directors Personal phone number online, phoned her and said I was audio recording the call and told her that one of her worker just committed fraud by making these fake document to look like documents from the data bank and placed them on a cd with real electronic documents. The director flipped out and said that her workers wouldn't do this, screamed into the phone and wanted to know how I got her direct phone number. I then told her I was going to fax her all the fraudulent documents and force her to investigate her office by putting her in a position of liability. At this time I noticed the election document which was sent to PEI head office had not been scanned into the system and put on my cd with a number 2 font. It had a number 8 font from the illegal hard copy file. If it was from the electronic system, it would prove the fraud as there is already an electronically signed decision letter in the system awarding me the $300,000 plus maximum amount of disability. So after this, ATIP had a worker take some real CSDN notebook documents from ATIP to a purolator courier at the PEI airport and sent to me. I know this as his name was placed on the side of the package. When investigating his name online, I found the adjudicators name from the fake decision letter on facebook from PEI, and he was listed as a friend on her facebook account and low and behold he stated he worked for VAC PEI. The the documents I received were so that I would not go after her and her office. The documents are the CSDN Notebook files which showed each person who accessed the real software for the disability adjudication which occurred in that electronic system. Including disability officers, adjudicators name,supervisors, payout officer, ect. This shows that an electronically signed adjudication occured and must be electronically signed and given to the applicant. I know this because I went to a clinic to get my medical documents and one document had boxes and bulleted items on it exactly the same as my fake decision letter was and I said I couldn't send this to VAC and the girl said, "The doctor forgot to enter it in the system".She entered it in the system and it came out formatted  in paragraph form with no boxes and bullets and was electronically signed. This shows me that the fake decision letters with boxes for headings and bulleted items is generated using the old CDN software and is printed in software mode which means when they are asked to save the file, print, or accept into the old electronic system, they are printing so it is not accepted in the system and electronically signed. That is why they are signed by hand. I then phoned VAC Disability officer and said I misplaced my original signed documents and would like her to fax me a copy of the original signed decision letter, she did and it was unsigned. Meaning that VAC doesn't have a copy of the original signed document on file. The cover letter was not signed by her and there were no CATT numbers or fax numbers on the top of the documents. The week before she faxed me some application doc's where the cover letter was signed by her and CAAT numbers from the real electronic system and fax number was on the top of the documents. Because the CSDN notebook doc's from ATIP show her logged in the real CSDN system seeing I was awarded 100% disability which match the time on the phone bill to her time  she was in the system, I also audio recorded the call where she admitted and whispered into the phone that if the documents are from your files(meaning real CSDN electronic Files) it would have "COPY" written across them as the electronic file would be the original so I knew the documents she faxed to me that were unsigned, were  not the real decision letter documents from the CSDN electronic system. if you look at your decision letters you will notice that the documents don't say page 1 of 10, 2 of 10, 3 of 10, ect for the page numbers. This means that the signature at the end of your decision letter is only good for the last page.Now look at your application document, it has page 1 of 8, 2 of 8, 3 of 8, ect, this means the signature is good for all pages of the documents. Meaning all 8 pages are married to the signature on the final page. Look at your decision letter and you will see only individual page numbers which means if this was truly the adjudicators legal decision, it would have to be page cited so the signature would be married to all pages of the decision letter.
So basically what you have in short form is - 2 electronic systems which a real one is awarding people higher payouts which they don't want to pay and you will never see these documents. A second old system being used to generate fake decision letters awarding you half the payout you should have got. My decision letter has about 130 mistakes that I have found in it in regards to grammatical errors, informational error, errors of fact, errors of legislation, ect. You then have to go to VRAB and fight for something you were already legally awarded in the real CSDN electronic system. More coming, I will be starting my own website in the future to show all the doc's and how the system works, including how ovo, and atip seem to use 2 systems as well and send out letters generated from their old systems.

First off, from this younger generation soldier to an older generation soldier! Thanks for your service to Canada and what it means to all us Canadians, you'll never get a real thank you from any of our politicians, so THANK YOU!

VRAB, they spend more time researching how to deny your claim, period!
Instead of allowing for the benefit of the doubt, "even with an abundance of proof and statements." they'll deny, delay until you die.

If your injured and it is not recorded in your medical documents, they'll lie, just like our PM does "in order to deny your claim", VRAB will even go above and beyond doctor's recommendations and even doctors whom served at that.

Just a heads up! The Dr. in PEI has no field time as a doctor.  Just a figure head and a signature, that is all that position is.
Keep fighting VRAB, call every number available and keep networking, you'll eventually find the answer your looking for.

Dirty trick on VRAB's part, in layman's term VRAB is a failure!
My paper trail isn't over yet on the ill treatment of DND personnel from our glorious hierarchy.

I apologize, I didn't make it clear that I am a veteran of the Korean War. Have no idea what a CM would be in this situation? Help would be appreciated. If CM means case manager, I don't have one that I know of.
Would this case manager be with VAC or VRAB, because VAC hasn't helped me through anything in the last 2 years. If the info is held by VRAB then VAC would have no role in the VRAB's information.
But, I thank you for the lead.

Have to asked your CM?

Looking for a little bit of help from anyone who can answer these questions please. Got my disability award and don't agree with the decision. I have a person I have chosen to represent me a the VRAB review and unfortunately the VRAB site doesn't have a form on the site for the application process.Their site tries to push using the War Amps, Legion, Bureau of pension Advocates, and a private lawyer. I have nothing against these agencies or persons, however I am sticking with my chosen representative. Their site under frequently asked questions says that your representative will submit the application on your behalf, that is nice if you are using the above mentioned groups, however this also explains to me that these groups have access to the application document and I don't. There are only 2 forms listed on their site which are Authority to release personal information- which will be signed for my representative and Consent and Waiver for Teleconference Hearings in Absentia Hearings. I am afraid that I want to be at my review with my representative so these won't do. I have emailed many times to the VRAB and they will not respond to my questions or tell me where to find the forms that I need to apply. I have also asked them repeatedly as to where I can find the written information for my representative to read what is needed in the application for review at the VRAB. No response.
So does anyone know where to get the information for a personal representative to make application for me or where an application document is attainable. VRAB seems to be up to the same tricks as VAC with intentional missing info. Thank You for any help