Re: Ottawa short-changed more than 270,000 veterans on pensions, disability payments

by Guest Wed 07 Nov 2018, 10:57

So are we to figure out if we are owed money, if so how ..?

by **Kramer** Mon 05 Nov 2018, 22:02

Below is what is on the governement's web site where they use the years 2003 to 2010.....vice what the news article says (2002 - 2010)

https://www.canada.ca/en/veterans-affairs-canada/news/2018/11/minister-of-veterans-affairs-issues-statement-on-compensation-for-corrective-adjustments-to-annual-disability-pension-calculations-between-2003-and.html

by johnny211 Mon 05 Nov 2018, 19:53

Bend over once again. And it’s only going to take them 2 yrs to fix it..lol.

by **bigrex** Mon 05 Nov 2018, 19:34

well if that is the case, even if they started using the correct calculations again in 2011, the monthly amounts those calculations would have been based on were wrong. So we should be getting the difference going back almost 17 years. Even at an average of $100 per moth, that would still be around $20000 that we've been we've been screwed out of, since 2002

by Guest Mon 05 Nov 2018, 13:36

Bruce72 wrote:Ottawa short-changed more than 270,000 veterans on pensions, disability payments

Accounting error is believed to have cost veterans $165M between 2002-2010

Murray Brewster · CBC News · Posted: Nov 05, 2018 10:03 AM ET | Last Updated: 3 hours ago

Veterans march to Remembrance Day ceremonies at the National War Memorial in Ottawa on Wednesday, November 11, 2015. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)

More than 270,000 ex-soldiers were short-changed by Veterans Affairs Canada for over eight years because of an accounting error worth at least $165 million, CBC News has learned.

The mistake was uncovered by the veterans ombudsman's office, which has worked with the federal department for over a year to get it to confirm the mistake and make amends, federal sources said Monday. How does someone find out if they were short changed, and if you were how do you get retro, or is this just another lost cause?

The error was made in the monthly indexing calculation on disability awards and pensions and is believed to have started as far back as 2002.

The department didn't factor in the basic provincial tax credit for individuals. That led to lower monthly payments for 272,000 veterans — a significant number of them Second World War and Korean war veterans.

As many as 175,000 of them have since died, leaving the federal government with a legal mess to untangle related to their estates.

The error ran unchecked from 2002 to 2010, according to internal department numbers analyzed by the ombudsman's staff.

In 2011, Veterans Affairs inexplicably resumed using the correct calculation, the sources said.

The department did not, however, make any move to reimburse veterans for the lost income, which would have — in the worst cases — amounted to a few hundred dollars per month.

Some veterans did end up receiving reimbursement — but inadvertently, and without knowing it. The Liberal government's 2016 budget poured more money into disability awards, and the measure included retroactive payments.

But the ombudsman said the difference was not made up for those who received disability pensions between 2002 and 2010.

Veterans Affairs acknowledged the mistake, but has not said anything publicly.

A submission apparently went before the federal Treasury Board to offer retroactive payments to those still left out, according to two federal government sources.

Whether it was approved, and what sort payments might be involved, remain unclear.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/veterans-affairs-pension-disability-1.4890117

by Guest Mon 05 Nov 2018, 12:40

Ottawa short-changed more than 270,000 veterans on pensions, disability payments

Accounting error is believed to have cost veterans $165M between 2002-2010

Murray Brewster · CBC News · Posted: Nov 05, 2018 10:03 AM ET | Last Updated: 3 hours ago

Ottawa short-changed more than 270,000 veterans on pensions, disability payments - Page 2 Remembrance-day-ottawa

Veterans march to Remembrance Day ceremonies at the National War Memorial in Ottawa on Wednesday, November 11, 2015. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)

More than 270,000 ex-soldiers were short-changed by Veterans Affairs Canada for over eight years because of an accounting error worth at least $165 million, CBC News has learned.

The mistake was uncovered by the veterans ombudsman's office, which has worked with the federal department for over a year to get it to confirm the mistake and make amends, federal sources said Monday.

The error was made in the monthly indexing calculation on disability awards and pensions and is believed to have started as far back as 2002.

The department didn't factor in the basic provincial tax credit for individuals. That led to lower monthly payments for 272,000 veterans — a significant number of them Second World War and Korean war veterans.

As many as 175,000 of them have since died, leaving the federal government with a legal mess to untangle related to their estates.

The error ran unchecked from 2002 to 2010, according to internal department numbers analyzed by the ombudsman's staff.

In 2011, Veterans Affairs inexplicably resumed using the correct calculation, the sources said.

The department did not, however, make any move to reimburse veterans for the lost income, which would have — in the worst cases — amounted to a few hundred dollars per month.

Some veterans did end up receiving reimbursement — but inadvertently, and without knowing it. The Liberal government's 2016 budget poured more money into disability awards, and the measure included retroactive payments.

But the ombudsman said the difference was not made up for those who received disability pensions between 2002 and 2010.

Veterans Affairs acknowledged the mistake, but has not said anything publicly.

A submission apparently went before the federal Treasury Board to offer retroactive payments to those still left out, according to two federal government sources.

Whether it was approved, and what sort payments might be involved, remain unclear.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/veterans-affairs-pension-disability-1.4890117

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