Re: Additional Pain and Suffering Compensation vs Career Impact Allowance

by Guest Wed 18 Mar 2020, 20:07

Six-Actual wrote:
steelgunner wrote:
Six-Actual wrote:You don't need to trust me steeltard. And quit hijacking threads with your inane words.

I am here to answer and hijack ever thread and comment you post.

At least you're admitting you are a douche bag. That's a big first step towards moral redemption.

Another staller response from the moral bankrupt mouth of Six.

by Guest Wed 18 Mar 2020, 19:15

steelgunner wrote:
Six-Actual wrote:You don't need to trust me steeltard. And quit hijacking threads with your inane words.

I am here to answer and hijack ever thread and comment you post.

At least you're admitting you are a douche bag. That's a big first step towards moral redemption.

by Guest Wed 18 Mar 2020, 19:08

Six-Actual wrote:You don't need to trust me steeltard. And quit hijacking threads with your inane words.

I am here to answer and hijack ever thread and comment you post.

by Guest Wed 18 Mar 2020, 19:02

You don't need to trust me steeltard. And quit hijacking threads with your inane words.

by Guest Wed 18 Mar 2020, 18:51

Six-Actual wrote:The Additional Pain and Suffering benefit can't be taken as a lump sum, because theoretically, and as it's written in the legislation, if your condition/s improve the benefit could be reduced or eliminated.

However, the legislation also states that a veteran would have to be free of all barriers and disabilities for a reduction or an elimination of the benefit to occur.

Wow, he can put together a sentence without saying shit.

Who could really trust a guy that flies off the handle in other posts and then gives this advice quoting the VAC website.

by Guest Wed 18 Mar 2020, 12:59

The Additional Pain and Suffering benefit can't be taken as a lump sum, because theoretically, and as it's written in the legislation, if your condition/s improve the benefit could be reduced or eliminated.

However, the legislation also states that a veteran would have to be free of all barriers and disabilities for a reduction or an elimination of the benefit to occur.

by derngt Tue 17 Mar 2020, 23:06

Unknown Soldier wrote:
johnny211 wrote:Unknown Soldier - As far as I’m aware, a Vet cannot take a lump sum for APSC. Found this, look under payment delivery;
https://www.veterans.gc.ca/GCWeb/pdf/Factsheets/APSC.pdf
I have a reassessment in for my APSC level, that has been there for one yr now..The wheels turn slow..Stay safe and well all. Johnny Out. VVV...
I'm so out of it l dont know what's what, what is the difference between pain and suffering, and additional pain and suffering. What is a reassessment based on, before April 1, when there was 3 levels of CIA, level 2 would not be granted unless the vet was also DEC. Now can a vet be determined to be at different level of APSC ...but still not be DEC, or is that still a requirement, thx

I will try to explain..Pain and Suffering is the award you get when you initially apply for a disability award with VAC. It can be taken as a lump sum or monthly payments. Addition Pain and Suffering is the new name for the old Career Impact Allowance. There are three level as well, now tax free. In my case I moved levels when I became DEC. I am sure you can get the correct answer on the VAC site...

by Unknown Soldier Tue 17 Mar 2020, 13:10

johnny211 wrote:Unknown Soldier - As far as I’m aware, a Vet cannot take a lump sum for APSC. Found this, look under payment delivery;
https://www.veterans.gc.ca/GCWeb/pdf/Factsheets/APSC.pdf
I have a reassessment in for my APSC level, that has been there for one yr now..The wheels turn slow..Stay safe and well all. Johnny Out. VVV...

I'm so out of it l dont know what's what, what is the difference between pain and suffering, and additional pain and suffering. What is a reassessment based on, before April 1, when there was 3 levels of CIA, level 2 would not be granted unless the vet was also DEC. Now can a vet be determined to be at different level of APSC ...but still not be DEC, or is that still a requirement, thx

by 45jim Tue 17 Mar 2020, 08:15

Again, this topic is regarding APSC vs CIA, it would be of benefit to all if you would keep your comments related to that subject, that's the idea.

While the very subject of service to veterans is a political discussion, the individual benefits the qualification process, the application process and the appeal process are not. For those just seeking information on the benefit(s) off topic rants don't help. They can go to the comments section and engage in the discussion there if they wish.

I would ask you not to high-jack the threads because you want to talk politics. its not a lot to ask.

by Guest Tue 17 Mar 2020, 07:46

45jim wrote:Its about time for the political ranting to be moved to an appropriate part of this site. The comment section is there for that use, please post those comments there.

When questions are posed here referencing specific topics it provides an opportunity for veterans who have more knowledge and experience to pass it on. We want Veterans to turn to this site as a group of peers whose only mandate is to assist one another. Lord knows that VAC is a challenge to deal with. There is a time and place for political discussions, its just not here.

Inserting your vitriolic political views into these discussions does not assist the person seeking knowledge or assistance and in that vein, it is counterproductive.

Its not a lot to ask, please move your comments to that section and leave the topics related to benefits or other VAC business clear and open to focus on those issues.

Thanks.

injecting politics, that's what veteran's are dealing with nothing but politics, promising one thing and doing another to suit they're naritive not veteran's best interest.
Did you get a vote, did i get a vote even though most of us signed under the same format and contract as pre 2006 and the RCMP.
I don't remember any democracy, i remember the fastest bill to be voted on by mps in parliamentary history!!!
Note the major difference is they used to back date and pay when your claim was submitted, now its when your claim is awarded two years or more after submission fkn right it's all about politics not helping veteran's...

by Guest Tue 17 Mar 2020, 07:35

derngt wrote:
Wildthing wrote:
derngt wrote:
Wildthing wrote:That was initiated under nationalism, you are now under globalism. You can fight it in court but remember globalist socialist communism owns the courts owns the adjudication lawyers .
Veterans couldn't even get they're case heard in the supreme court they served to protect...
Question is why the fk is anybody serving right now, what the hell do they think they are protecting?!

What does your rant have to do with Additional Pain and Suffering..Find a political site for you BS..Oh BTW if Canada didnt have some socialist leaning you would not have health card...
some socialism is good yes, this is going beyond
Some socialism, you so blinded as to not notice the communism or are you to young to notice the difference?
WTF does it take the hammer to drop before people see the facts, it will be to late then, you won't be able to vote your way out of it!!!
For your information, without capitalism socialism nationalism and patriotism you will have no freedoms, to much of one thing is not good for you, your parents never tell you that???
At one point they said we could take it as a lump sum, then they decided no, only reason for that is they want you to die before you get whats owed to you !!!

At no point the old CIA and now the new Additional pain and suffering benefit we given as a lump sum..Never happened..You may be confusing the new disability pension called Pain And Suffering..This can be taken monthly or a lump sum. It replaces the pension act and the New pension charter...Please research before you rant....You are so wrong and only causing confusion..Spend so time on the VAC site researching then come back and apologise for your mistake...

This was first promised as a lump sum then the government said no it will be added in monthly till age 83 it's a win win for the government as most won't see 83 to collect all their additional pain and suffering award!
Your correct pain and suffering was a tax free monthly award for life under the pension act. My apologies for that. This is a combination of PFL NVC which may not cover the life span of some veterans who live much longer than 83 so as the new charter originally stated pain and suffering would be paid in a lump sum.
This is a flip flop situation under PFL to remove the benefits associated with a lump sum and the tens of thousands taken away from us by only allowing pre 2006 veterans claims to recieve all benefits adding up to thousands more per month!
Straight PFL no PA no NVC really get the shaft !!!
https://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/financial-support/compensation-illness-injury/additional-pain-suffering

by 45jim Tue 17 Mar 2020, 07:20

Its about time for the political ranting to be moved to an appropriate part of this site. The comment section is there for that use, please post those comments there.

When questions are posed here referencing specific topics it provides an opportunity for veterans who have more knowledge and experience to pass it on. We want Veterans to turn to this site as a group of peers whose only mandate is to assist one another. Lord knows that VAC is a challenge to deal with. There is a time and place for political discussions, its just not here.

Inserting your vitriolic political views into these discussions does not assist the person seeking knowledge or assistance and in that vein, it is counterproductive.

Its not a lot to ask, please move your comments to that section and leave the topics related to benefits or other VAC business clear and open to focus on those issues.

Thanks.

by derngt Tue 17 Mar 2020, 06:34

Wildthing wrote:
derngt wrote:
Wildthing wrote:That was initiated under nationalism, you are now under globalism. You can fight it in court but remember globalist socialist communism owns the courts owns the adjudication lawyers .
Veterans couldn't even get they're case heard in the supreme court they served to protect...
Question is why the fk is anybody serving right now, what the hell do they think they are protecting?!

What does your rant have to do with Additional Pain and Suffering..Find a political site for you BS..Oh BTW if Canada didnt have some socialist leaning you would not have health card...
some socialism is good yes, this is going beyond
Some socialism, you so blinded as to not notice the communism or are you to young to notice the difference?
WTF does it take the hammer to drop before people see the facts, it will be to late then, you won't be able to vote your way out of it!!!
For your information, without capitalism socialism nationalism and patriotism you will have no freedoms, to much of one thing is not good for you, your parents never tell you that???
At one point they said we could take it as a lump sum, then they decided no, only reason for that is they want you to die before you get whats owed to you !!!

At no point the old CIA and now the new Additional pain and suffering benefit we given as a lump sum..Never happened..You may be confusing the new disability pension called Pain And Suffering..This can be taken monthly or a lump sum. It replaces the pension act and the New pension charter...Please research before you rant....You are so wrong and only causing confusion..Spend so time on the VAC site researching then come back and apologise for your mistake...

by Guest Tue 17 Mar 2020, 06:00

derngt wrote:
Wildthing wrote:That was initiated under nationalism, you are now under globalism. You can fight it in court but remember globalist socialist communism owns the courts owns the adjudication lawyers .
Veterans couldn't even get they're case heard in the supreme court they served to protect...
Question is why the fk is anybody serving right now, what the hell do they think they are protecting?!

What does your rant have to do with Additional Pain and Suffering..Find a political site for you BS..Oh BTW if Canada didnt have some socialist leaning you would not have health card...

some socialism is good yes, this is going beyond
Some socialism, you so blinded as to not notice the communism or are you to young to notice the difference?
WTF does it take the hammer to drop before people see the facts, it will be to late then, you won't be able to vote your way out of it!!!
For your information, without capitalism socialism nationalism and patriotism you will have no freedoms, to much of one thing is not good for you, your parents never tell you that???
At one point they said we could take it as a lump sum, then they decided no, only reason for that is they want you to die before you get whats owed to you !!!

by johnny211 Tue 17 Mar 2020, 05:30

Unknown Soldier - As far as I’m aware, a Vet cannot take a lump sum for APSC. Found this, look under payment delivery;
https://www.veterans.gc.ca/GCWeb/pdf/Factsheets/APSC.pdf
I have a reassessment in for my APSC level, that has been there for one yr now..The wheels turn slow..Stay safe and well all. Johnny Out. VVV...

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