Pension Miscalculation/Error Class Action

I spoke with a person at VAC on Thursday and the info I was given was:
“Disbursement will begin at the end of December for members who currently have disability pensions.”

When I questioned this and told the lady that the lawsuit says they are supposed to be COMPLETED those claims by December 19th, she told me ‘their’ FAQ page states that it only begins at that time.

Please don’t shoot the messenger…[/quote]

As per VAC's website/page

https://www.veterans.gc.ca/en/contact-us/help/faqs/manuge-et-al-v-his-majesty-king-class-action

Q6. When can I expect to receive my settlement payment?
A6. Payments for class members that are part of the VAC payment group are expected to begin no later than December 2024.


Legal Notice

file:///Users/Admin/Downloads/Schedule-B-Long-Form-Notice-27-March-2024-ENGLISH-VERSION61612991.3-10-FINALApr2024.pdf

"Class Members with a current payment relationship with VAC will receive payments automatically beginning after 19March 2024. Canada is required to complete all automatic payments by 19 December 2024."

The Notice states...."BY 19 December 2024." As that time has not passed, I suppose VAC can say what they choose....but we all have experienced information from one of VAC's staff/employee is more often than not different/contradicted from another......

Kramer wrote:

LostTrucker wrote:

Shogun-VP wrote:Someone posted on the PPCLI association that they spoke to VA and that payments are expected between Labour Day and thanksgiving.

I guess the info posted by whoever on the association was misinformed

I understand everyone's frustration.......wait....wait......wait..........wait......nothing changes if nothing changes and a prime example is VAC.

One's information is only as good as the source, regardless how well the intent is.  I suspect/guess that anyone given a date into 2025 has to do with those submitting claims (again just a guess).  If VAC needs more time (beyond the 19th of Dec) before rolling out the payments, they would be wise to advise the court/lawyers ASAP.  To wait till the last minute and say we need more time, will not look good, when they should have known/know this well in advance.  If VAC does petition the court without a valid reason why they waited, the court/judge would not take this lightly......but...only time will tell.

I spoke with a person at VAC on Thursday and the info I was given was:
“Disbursement will begin at the end of December for members who currently have disability pensions.”

When I questioned this and told the lady that the lawsuit says they are supposed to be COMPLETED those claims by December 19th, she told me ‘their’ FAQ page states that it only begins at that time.

Please don’t shoot the messenger…

LostTrucker wrote:

Shogun-VP wrote:Someone posted on the PPCLI association that they spoke to VA and that payments are expected between Labour Day and thanksgiving.

I guess the info posted by whoever on the association was misinformed

I understand everyone's frustration.......wait....wait......wait..........wait......nothing changes if nothing changes and a prime example is VAC.

One's information is only as good as the source, regardless how well the intent is. I suspect/guess that anyone given a date into 2025 has to do with those submitting claims (again just a guess). If VAC needs more time (beyond the 19th of Dec) before rolling out the payments, they would be wise to advise the court/lawyers ASAP. To wait till the last minute and say we need more time, will not look good, when they should have known/know this well in advance. If VAC does petition the court without a valid reason why they waited, the court/judge would not take this lightly......but...only time will tell.

Shogun-VP wrote:Someone posted on the PPCLI association that they spoke to VA and that payments are expected between Labour Day and thanksgiving.

I guess the info posted by whoever on the association was misinformed

LostTrucker wrote:

Halfpint wrote:Does anyone have any contacts that know when the VA will begin with the disbursements?

I just spoke with a person named “Jane” at Veterans Affairs and she informed me that her latest update was:

‘Not until end 2024, beginning of 2025.’

I could be mistaken, but I thought I read somewhere that they were supposed to start 9 months from the Class Action becoming finalized. I may have it mixed up with the SISIP Class Action… ‍

Thanks

The court order became effective on March 19, 2024 in which they had 9 months to pay.  This would bring the deadline December 19, 2024 as ordered by the court.  So could be anytime from today up to and including Dec 19th.  So if they did wait until 2025 (which I hope they don't) then they broke the court order.....what happens then?

Thanks, LostTrucker. I thought it was 9 months from January. Appreciate your input.

Halfpint wrote:Does anyone have any contacts that know when the VA will begin with the disbursements?

I just spoke with a person named “Jane” at Veterans Affairs and she informed me that her latest update was:

‘Not until end 2024, beginning of 2025.’

I could be mistaken, but I thought I read somewhere that they were supposed to start 9 months from the Class Action becoming finalized. I may have it mixed up with the SISIP Class Action… ‍

Thanks

The court order became effective on March 19, 2024 in which they had 9 months to pay.  This would bring the deadline December 19, 2024 as ordered by the court.  So could be anytime from today up to and including Dec 19th. So if they did wait until 2025 (which I hope they don't) then they broke the court order.....what happens then?

Yes 9 months.
What a bunch of you know whats

Does anyone have any contacts that know when the VA will begin with the disbursements?

I just spoke with a person named “Jane” at Veterans Affairs and she informed me that her latest update was:

‘Not until end 2024, beginning of 2025.’

I could be mistaken, but I thought I read somewhere that they were supposed to start 9 months from the Class Action becoming finalized. I may have it mixed up with the SISIP Class Action… ‍�

Thanks

You are correct that It's tax free, and we won't get a T4 for the payment. We should however still receive a letter, stating how much money was paid to the lawyers, and an explanation of how to claim it on our taxes. Because even if the source of the money was tax free, it's still a legal expense, and legal expense can be claimed on your taxes.


Legal fees

You can claim the following expenses:

fees including any related accounting fees you paid:for advice or assistance to respond to the CRA when the CRA reviewed your income, deductions or credits for a year to object to or appeal an assessment or decision under the Income Tax Act, the Employment Insurance Act, the Canada Pension Plan or the Quebec Pension Plan
fees that you paid to collect (or establish a right to) a retiring allowance or pension benefit. You can claim only up to the retiring allowance or pension income you received in the year minus any part of these amounts transferred to a registered retirement savings plan (RRSP) or registered pension plan (RRP). You can carry forward the legal fees that you cannot claim in the year for up to seven years
certain fees you incurred to try to make child support payments non-taxable

exarmyguy wrote:What are you guys talking about here?
This is tax free payment.  Never see a t4 for it.  Never get a bill for a lawyer.  They get theirs right off the top before a penny goes out.
You never need to claim this to anyone.

That's what l originally thought, that the lawyers get their cut off the top of the entire payout, and then ever vet gets what they get

What are you guys talking about here?
This is tax free payment. Never see a t4 for it. Never get a bill for a lawyer. They get theirs right off the top before a penny goes out.
You never need to claim this to anyone.

LostTrucker wrote:

Teentitan wrote:

LostTrucker wrote:

Unknown Soldier wrote:Is that indivually? I.e. if a vet was expected to receive $1000...they would only get about $830?

That is correct.  All legal fee are calculated for each payout.  Don't forget lump sums are also not included in the class action

Don't forget that the bill from the lawyer is claimable on your yearly taxes.

Just like the Manuge case claiming the lawyer fees is almost dollar for dollar.  So some will break even with taxes or maybe get a return?

How do we claim it? Is there a certain form we need to prove it?

You will get a package of documents when your payment comes that you need to do your taxes. The receipt will be in the package. Can't remember what line on your tax return but the instructions are there in the search bar of your tax return program.

Teentitan wrote:

LostTrucker wrote:

Unknown Soldier wrote:Is that indivually? I.e. if a vet was expected to receive $1000...they would only get about $830?

That is correct.  All legal fee are calculated for each payout.  Don't forget lump sums are also not included in the class action

Don't forget that the bill from the lawyer is claimable on your yearly taxes.

Just like the Manuge case claiming the lawyer fees is almost dollar for dollar.  So some will break even with taxes or maybe get a return?

How do we claim it? Is there a certain form we need to prove it?

LostTrucker wrote:

Unknown Soldier wrote:Is that indivually? I.e. if a vet was expected to receive $1000...they would only get about $830?

That is correct.  All legal fee are calculated for each payout. Don't forget lump sums are also not included in the class action

Don't forget that the bill from the lawyer is claimable on your yearly taxes.

Just like the Manuge case claiming the lawyer fees is almost dollar for dollar. So some will break even with taxes or maybe get a return?

Unknown Soldier wrote:Is that indivually? I.e. if a vet was expected to receive $1000...they would only get about $830?

That is correct.  All legal fee are calculated for each payout. Don't forget lump sums are also not included in the class action