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Post by Guest Sat 10 Nov 2012, 19:09

but enough politics.if any of you think the sisip issue is a big one you may be right.now in my oppinion the nvc is the bigest issue faceing vets today.this in my oppinion is the worst thing to happen to canadian vets by its own government in the history of this country and the sisip issue pales in comparisson.this is just my oppinion though i really dont want you all to trust my word on this subject as im not on the nvc.what i want you all to do is ask all your freinds that are on it and formulate your oppinion from that.
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Post by Guest Sat 10 Nov 2012, 18:46

navrat i dont know what econimist you are talking about all will fully agree the single bigest reason for our strong economy since Mulroney was and still is free trade now being overtaken by tar sands oil.and teen you can call Mulroney a thief all you want the liberals formally did it on 3 ocasions useing various goc proxies and including his lawsuit against them the liberals lost 4 times in a court of law 3 times in front of liberal judges.they will not try have him charged again untill after his death when he can no longer defend himself.maybe you can help with some evedence we have not yet herd.boy oh boy how many times do you need to be found inocent before anyone belives you are.he fought the big goc machine for years and won i wonder how many here knows what he feels like?
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Post by Guest Sat 10 Nov 2012, 18:31

News Flash. Harper is in the Philippines and was asked a question regarding veterans benefits and funeral expenses, He responded by saying his government had done enough and will study it going forward. That's are great dear leader, a real caring , compassiate person who really gives a rats ass about veterans or anyone for that matter, but if you need a billion dollars to create a fake lake and gazebo to impress your business friends that is more important or the 2 billion he is cutting from DND or VAC where on a pro captia basis is getting slammed the most of every department.
Power to the people
Viva la revolution
You are the 99 percent

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Post by Guest Sat 10 Nov 2012, 18:17

cool nice rant teen.who implimented the nvc in 2006?who fought against this class the last few years?yes another party started the clawback but never fought against a class of disabled vets in court as far as i can recall.yes another party started the nvc witch is going to cause more hardship vore are vets than anything any canadian government has done in history but they didnt implement it.are you really that missguided as to believe that the liblerals forced harper to implement this policy they started when he was in power REALLY.do you really belive they put a gun to his head and said implement this policy ore elce.im not on the nvc nore can i imagian what its like to be on i live neer cfb gagetown and talk to the broke and the poor that are on it they were and still are my freinds from 2RCR and im gona belive what they tell me about it.if you tell me that you truely belive that this is a good system ore least ways not that bad and that harper had no choice but to impliment it then thats your oppinion.i will never agree with you on those to points but im glad you have the opertunity to express them.as i always value everyones point of view.
thank you fore all your great work on this site teen
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Post by Guest Sat 10 Nov 2012, 18:12

Actually , Teen, it was Paul Martin who saved this country from the financial cliff we were about to go over, left to us by Conservative Mulroney .Every economist in the world would say that, and Harper has ran up the deficit again , just like every conservative government does, Look at some of the provincial governments were the ndp have been in power and they have been very fiscally responiable . People don't like Harper because he's a bully and if he doesn't like something he shuts it down. He runs this country like a dictator and I for one love Fidel Castro , I visit Cuba 2 to 3 times a year and love the country and people. Does that make me a bad person? You can be a socialist and love your country! North America, as you can see from Obamas victory, is becoming more liberal and that is a good thing, people have seen the truth and the truth is capitalism steals from the middle class the poor to give to the rich, plain and simple. Harper only gave up the fight for the clawback because he had too, he knew he had loss so to save face and for pr value he decided to give up. But it's no over yet, if Harper is such a hero, why no damages and why no legal fees? And Harper will fight this new class action tooth and nail, he's no friend of the military, middle class, poor or disabled, only a friend to the rich, the 1 percent

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Post by bigrex Sat 10 Nov 2012, 18:05

Titan, I agree that all politicians are too greedy to really care about those of us who put our bodies and minds on the block for our country. They do not truly understand sacrifice. But to me, Harper is the worst because even though those others ignored our cause, Harper actively fought to keep it happening.
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Post by Teentitan Sat 10 Nov 2012, 17:49

Propat give me a break! The Liberals were in power for what 13 years? What the hell did Chretien and Martin do for the vets??? SFA! Martin stripped the CF to bare bones, ignored the SISIP clawback, unleashed that FUBAR bill called the New Veterans Charter! And both walked away with clear consicious!?!?!?!? Oh a NVC that was pitched on the airplane on the way back from the 60th anniversary of the invasion of NORWAY! Yeah that's right I said Norway! That's the country we invaded according to the shipping magnate Paul Martin who was the PM at the time. He got confused between Norway and NORMANDY because he was trying to figure out another tax haven for his stock in the shipping business his kids were running while he was running Canada into the ground! Another Dick Chenney Haliburton wannabe!

Go ahead think what you want about me! I just pointed out a FACT about Harper and how he laid down his sword in this battle. If you are going to crucify him then include the damn Liberals! And yeah you can include Mulroney too! All he did was 'pad' his bank account over the airbus scandal and slipped into the dark of night...twice!


Think about this...in 1967 that flower wearing, Nazi helmet wearing, best buds with Fidel Castro, pioreting behind the Queen, gave the bird to Alberta, Mr. Fuddle Duddle himself stripped the Canadian Armed Forces of it's identity! He made us all wear uniforms as close to what that Communist Chairman Mao wanted for his military...a uniform of green on green with a green F'n tie! If you haven't figured out who I'm talking about it's Pierre Trudeau.

Do you think his offspring is going to do any better!?!?!?!? That little arrogant SOB that stood up in the HoC and called another MP of the opposition party a "piece of shit" is going to give a shit about the plight we veterans are going thru? Problems that started under his father's watch as PM!?!?!?

Is Harper perfect? Hell NO! BUT he's a hell of alot better then the piss poor Liberals that ran this country into a hug a thug, craddle to crave, berkinstock, tree hugging society for the last 40 years!!!!!
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Post by Guest Sat 10 Nov 2012, 16:53

yes georges you can still steer your anger at harper as well no other enemy has inflicted more damage on canadian vets as he has.it is verry much time for change.
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Post by Teentitan Sat 10 Nov 2012, 16:33

Georges I love your passion but steer your anger in the right direction. Manulife is not responsible for ripping off 6000 vets the Treasury Board is responsible.
The TB created the policy of clawing back PA payments even though Manulife (then Maritime Life) pointed out continually over the years that the policy was wrong BUT the TB and GoC did not listen to the insurance company.
Why did the GoC constantely over the years ignore the insurance company? Because they were too arrogant to admit their mistake!

I've said this before and I will say it again...the one thing PM Harper did right was finally admitting the clawback policy created by the TB, all those years ago, was wrong. So he shut down the court battle and said to the TB..."Fix it and fix it now!"

If only the PM would say "Fix and fix it now!" more often for veterans. A quick one that can be done quickly is the Last Post Fund.
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Post by Guest Sat 10 Nov 2012, 16:23

It's a insult to see Manulife, is using the days of rememberence, ower souvenir, history and experience to promot there healht and care insurence. They have ripped off some 6000 vet's and they are now using us to make more profit. Dam I am pissed of big time!!!

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Post by Guest Sat 10 Nov 2012, 09:10

We all know sisip is part of manulife financial( in some manner) the other part is the GOC and maybe a few other orgs. The thing that actually get's to me is that manulife has commurcials every few minutes on the history channel, during the days of rememberence week!!!!!!! Using the vet's history to sw-- more canadien. boy I thought the devil was supporsed to be the bad guy. PERSONNALY IF YOU HAVE ANY ENERGY TO WAIST SPENT IT ON THIS

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