CPPD assessment by my Doc late..11 years late, Why did CF doc not do this?
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Re: CPPD assessment by my Doc late..11 years late, Why did CF doc not do this?
you missed option 2. firebird give that a read again.
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Re: CPPD assessment by my Doc late..11 years late, Why did CF doc not do this?
So if I win my appeal for LTD and SISIP asks me to apply for CPPD there is no point to because I have not paid CPP in four of the last six years and I paid 20 years of CPP not 25 years.
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great stuff once again coff .
we all appreciate this.
propat
we all appreciate this.
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Re: CPPD assessment by my Doc late..11 years late, Why did CF doc not do this?
Rags, if you never applied within the initial time frame:
{To qualify for a Canada Pension Plan (CPP) disability benefit, you must have contributed to the CPP in:
four of the last six years, or
three of the last six years if you have contributed for at least 25 years.}
To qualify for late filing
Two choices
1.If you were physically or mentally incapable of forming or expressing the intent to make an application for CPP disability benefits, and you were also incapable of asking someone else to apply on your behalf, you should request the incapacity provision. You must apply within a year after you regained your capacity.
2.late applicant provision.You may be eligible if:
you had enough years of CPP contributions when you first became severely disabled
you have been continuously disabled (as defined by CPP legislation) from that date up to the present time.
There is one other choice if you initially applied and were rejected, like in my case, there is a provision to reapplied without meeting the timing requirements.
{To qualify for a Canada Pension Plan (CPP) disability benefit, you must have contributed to the CPP in:
four of the last six years, or
three of the last six years if you have contributed for at least 25 years.}
To qualify for late filing
Two choices
1.If you were physically or mentally incapable of forming or expressing the intent to make an application for CPP disability benefits, and you were also incapable of asking someone else to apply on your behalf, you should request the incapacity provision. You must apply within a year after you regained your capacity.
2.late applicant provision.You may be eligible if:
you had enough years of CPP contributions when you first became severely disabled
you have been continuously disabled (as defined by CPP legislation) from that date up to the present time.
There is one other choice if you initially applied and were rejected, like in my case, there is a provision to reapplied without meeting the timing requirements.
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Re: CPPD assessment by my Doc late..11 years late, Why did CF doc not do this?
Rags call the CRA investigation unit and ask them if they can give you a record/letter stating how many years you contributed to CPP and the amount.
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Re: CPPD assessment by my Doc late..11 years late, Why did CF doc not do this?
rags fight these guys buds I would . by the way ROE means something different on civi street .
record of employment lol you can still request this from the military .
propat
record of employment lol you can still request this from the military .
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Re: CPPD assessment by my Doc late..11 years late, Why did CF doc not do this?
hey pinger ya it all gets confusing buds not a problem . the thing is he put in his initial application and got rejected for three reasons one glaring one was missing .
you do not meat the criteria as disabled under para yada yada table yada yada yada .
so the medical side seems solid he is having problems on the administrative side witch can be a bureaucratic fracking nightmare .
but with the info in this thread he should have the basic info he needs to start fighting these frackers.
propat
you do not meat the criteria as disabled under para yada yada table yada yada yada .
so the medical side seems solid he is having problems on the administrative side witch can be a bureaucratic fracking nightmare .
but with the info in this thread he should have the basic info he needs to start fighting these frackers.
propat
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As a note I asked CPPD why they sent me a letter ever 5 years since 73 listing all my contributions over the years from 1973 as a part time worker right up through the years. The last letter I got was 1998 or so and it detailed a 25 year history of CPP payments and stated that if I became disabled at that time Id be compensated $888 per month. They asked if I could send that to them......I laughed I said I threw it out but it came from there office they can pull it up. They said no they could not I had to provide it. Morons.
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Re: CPPD assessment by my Doc late..11 years late, Why did CF doc not do this?
Where is my APPEAL decision?
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Re: CPPD assessment by my Doc late..11 years late, Why did CF doc not do this?
Didn't mean to put words in your mouth propat. Man it can get confusing though.
Keeping it simple helps, I should remind myself...
I mean obviously if I have current civie specialist and medical reports they will help support cppd.
I think I get your drift, you can't use your DVA history, documents and approvals for the initial app.
But you can use it to appeal a denial, right?
It gets pretty draining, all the paperwork. And applying for cppd is like starting all over again with the same shyte. For myself, if anything I should look into reapplying for pia. One thing at a time will avoid a trainwreck in my head.
Happy you got approved for it at the first crack DeeCee. pinger.
Keeping it simple helps, I should remind myself...
I mean obviously if I have current civie specialist and medical reports they will help support cppd.
I think I get your drift, you can't use your DVA history, documents and approvals for the initial app.
But you can use it to appeal a denial, right?
It gets pretty draining, all the paperwork. And applying for cppd is like starting all over again with the same shyte. For myself, if anything I should look into reapplying for pia. One thing at a time will avoid a trainwreck in my head.
Happy you got approved for it at the first crack DeeCee. pinger.
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Re: CPPD assessment by my Doc late..11 years late, Why did CF doc not do this?
pinger im not sure I follow you I never said you could use a military/DVA declaration as medical evidence for CPPD I only said you can use it to fight the first two reasons of his denial .
ya see the thing is if you can prove that you were unable to work and thus contribute to CPP for medical reasons they will eliminate those years from their calculations .
that's why I always say get CPPD asap then at 65 they just convert you to CPP .
if not you are probably going to have to prove you were unable to work for all those years for medical reasons and hope you win .
yes you can use sisip, ltd, elb, pia the highest, tpi, 100% DVA and any and all evidence you can find to prove you were unable to work all those years when trying to fight a denial of CPPD on the grounds given as the first two reasons ( no not on the application itself ) or when applying for CPP after being disabled for many years but not having CPPD witch to them is automatic proof.
understand what im getting at
propat
ya see the thing is if you can prove that you were unable to work and thus contribute to CPP for medical reasons they will eliminate those years from their calculations .
that's why I always say get CPPD asap then at 65 they just convert you to CPP .
if not you are probably going to have to prove you were unable to work for all those years for medical reasons and hope you win .
yes you can use sisip, ltd, elb, pia the highest, tpi, 100% DVA and any and all evidence you can find to prove you were unable to work all those years when trying to fight a denial of CPPD on the grounds given as the first two reasons ( no not on the application itself ) or when applying for CPP after being disabled for many years but not having CPPD witch to them is automatic proof.
understand what im getting at
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Re: CPPD assessment by my Doc late..11 years late, Why did CF doc not do this?
Yes I know. I was approved on my first application. Although my LTD was reduced by 5 or 6 hundred, the CCP D made up the difference as it was 12 hundred or more. So I was ahead by a bunch and my CF pension was reduced as well. I don't care where it comes from or who takes some away, as long as things are on the straight and narrow for the most part. I don't have elb, pia or tpi.
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Re: CPPD assessment by my Doc late..11 years late, Why did CF doc not do this?
DeeCee, you said keep trying? Very True. The first applications are usually denied. For capping my deteriorating CPP (propat) I showed my civie doc the CCCP(d:) form she's familiar with. She says pick the worst situation. Too much overwhelming paperwork for me.
CCCP(d) is civie street. As vets, we could be sisip, ltd, elb, pia the highest, tpi, 100% new or old... paralyzed from the neck down it don't matter for CPP(d).
It don't matter to CPP(d), you still have to validate their paperwork with med docs before you get denied just the first time.
I'm getting too old for that shyte. pinger.
CCCP(d) is civie street. As vets, we could be sisip, ltd, elb, pia the highest, tpi, 100% new or old... paralyzed from the neck down it don't matter for CPP(d).
It don't matter to CPP(d), you still have to validate their paperwork with med docs before you get denied just the first time.
I'm getting too old for that shyte. pinger.
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Re: CPPD assessment by my Doc late..11 years late, Why did CF doc not do this?
Hey Rucksack, I sent you a PM. I will call you tomorrow or later tonight if you prefer.
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great stuff cof thought that third reason was strange .
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