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Earnings Loss Benefit (ELB) Increase to 90%

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Post by Guest Fri 23 Sep 2016, 08:47

danny 90% of your pre release salary will be your new BENIFIT . just subtract 75% of your pre release and that will give you your increase .except those effected by the minimum .

your easy math will work if by entitlement you mean BEFORE deductions like CPPD MIL pension and such and you replace the 15% with 20%.

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Post by Dannypaj Fri 23 Sep 2016, 06:04

bigrex wrote:Well, the new 90% ELB, based on the $43283, would be just over $51939, but since only the amounts above $45283 would be taxed at the higher rate, you should still see approx $7000 of the ELB increase in your pocket.

October will tell the really dollar amount and I would also look into what tax bracket you may have moved into as well and deduct from there.

This generic letter, is it the same for everyone?

Easy math here $100+15%= $115.00

So, the entitlement (ELB) you have at this moment should raise by 15%? (it should be this easy!)

Going into my VAC account I should be able to take my ELB full entitlement amount and raise that by 15% giving me the new dollar amount, as I read it.
Not talking about taxes here. Just the main increase to the ELB.



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Post by pinger Thu 22 Sep 2016, 22:57

This is no sweat to me, and should not be to others. Irregardless of your situation.
Reason being:

No. 1.    We will find out at the end of October.

No. 2.    (Very Important) Jumping to conclusions, deductions, and assumptions
           will sap and just fracking drain you until then . . .

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Post by Guest Thu 22 Sep 2016, 17:02

Okay the picture is getting clearer.  

Got a letter today about the increase.  I have LTD and I am approved for ELB but no payment.

When the increase comes into effect I will be getting another letter from VAC to report my earnings.  Which will be  only SSIP LTD (on the phone today with VAC).  VAC apparently will start giving me a 15% increase after Oct at some point.  

So, I do have to give the system credit for hopefully getting this right.  If we can get the PA back I would be so happy and take back a lot of things that I said about the GOC.  But until that day happens, the letters and protest continue.

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Post by Guest Thu 22 Sep 2016, 16:59

got my letter in the mail today in regards to the ELB increase . we are pleased to inform you that we will be recalculating your ELB benefit yada yada same as the ones on the my VAC account . so still waiting for the one in October with the financial questioner .

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Post by bigrex Sat 17 Sep 2016, 16:44

They will need to provide a financial worksheet for everyone getting the increase, because if they don't, they will have Veterans calling up asking how they arrived at the amount that they did.
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Post by pinger Sat 17 Sep 2016, 15:41

About this 15% . . . I only speak for myself when I say that, at the risk of becoming a half fracked fox in a forest fire, I'll simply wait until the end of Oct.
Not that's it's easy, but ain't we all a bit used to waiting ?

Because this 15% ain't no cookie cutter or like, one size fits all (unfortunately).
Waaay too many combinations of different situations that could fill a book imo.

Also curious about this forthcoming letter. I hope it ain't generic, but kinda like a simplified Fin. Ben. Worksheet individual to us and our sit.? Maybe that's asking too much though . . . but would at least show how they did our math. jmo
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Post by bigrex Sat 17 Sep 2016, 13:23

The only time that ELB and PIA are used together in any calculations, is for determining the ceiling for the RISB.
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Post by Guest Sat 17 Sep 2016, 06:31

No the PIA is not included in the ELB calculations.

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Post by Tadpole72 Sat 17 Sep 2016, 04:56

Can anyone tell me if PIA is included in ELB calculation.

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Post by Guest Fri 16 Sep 2016, 20:59

Has anyone fully read VAC's e mail about ELB yet?  Got it last night on my VAC account, I called VAC and ask the following.  "I am on Ltd and now I see you are now confirmed ELB to be 90% of pay.  So question how do I address this shortfall for myself?"

They could not answer me, they said they might have an answer on Monday.  Not holding my breath on that one.

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Post by bigrex Fri 16 Sep 2016, 20:33

Well, you can always apply for the rehab program Nemo. ELB is designed to be a temporary benefit, but it does not have a set limit like SISIP does, with the 24 months. So you can get it for a few months, or several years. But if you are deemed totally and permanently impaired, you can get it until age 65, just like SISIP.
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Post by 1sea0shell33 Fri 16 Sep 2016, 20:29

Yes ELB does have an end date. So unless you were put on eelb which runs dry at 65 everyone should reapply for vac ELB . Just my opinion.

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Post by Nemo Fri 16 Sep 2016, 20:24

For those on ELB.....from what I understand looking at VAC site...ELB has an end date. So are people on ELB for a short period or can you be on ELB until you die?
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Post by Nemo Fri 16 Sep 2016, 20:15

well that sucks. don't get elb but i get sisip...cpp...cf pension (plus vac pension but that cant be included) so guess i will get zip....on the other hand, when they increased the min to 40K a couple of years ago, I got an increase.
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