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Re: ELB Class Action Law Suit

Post by Guest on Thu 13 Feb 2014, 16:13

First no mention of the money stolen from us in the budget now this........

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/retired-soldiers-mounties-hit-by-conservative-budget-changes-1.2535875

I am seriously fucking pissed off.

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Post by Guest on Thu 13 Feb 2014, 10:55

Translation isn't perfect but here it is ~
BONJOUR, J'WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES D'HAVE THE ELB RETRO? WHY DOES THE GOVERNMENT GIVE US NO answers. Since April 2006 until October 2012, 6 YEARS THAT THE GOVERNMENT WE MUST. WHAT TO DO TO RECOVER THE PENSIONS DÉDUITES ON L'ALLOCATION OF INCOME LOSSES. THE GOVERNMENT LETS THE TIME GO TO WAIT THAT hast been forgotten? WE MUST THIS MONEY .... TREAT US WITH RESPECT AND FAIRNESS ... I just HOPE THAT IT DOES NOT TAKE ANOTHER CLASS ACTION!!! FOLLOW THE DECISION OF THE COURT!!!! If C'IS GOOD FOR THE SISIP C'IS GOOD FOR THE ELB, IT ES ALL OF VÉTÉRANS WHO HAVE SEEN THEIR PENSIONS BE DEDUCTED UNFAIRLY!!!! FROM APRIL 2006 UNTIL OCTOBER 2012!!! THEN FOLLOW THE DECISION

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Post by the cros on Thu 13 Feb 2014, 10:45

BONJOUR, J`AIMERAIS SAVOIR SI IL Y DES CHANCES D`AVOIR LE ELB RETRO? POURQUOI LE GOUVERNEMENT NE NOUS DONNES PAS DE REPONSES. DEPUIS AVRIL 2006 JUSQU`A OCTOBRE 2012, 6 ANS QUE LE GOUVERNEMENT NOUS DOIT. QUOI FAIRE POUR RÉCUPÉRER LES PENSIONS DÉDUITES SUR L`ALLOCATION DE PERTES DE REVENU. LE GOUVERNEMENT LAISSE PASSER LE TEMPS POUR ESPÉRER QU`ON OUBLIE? ON NOUS DOIT CET ARGENT.... TRAITEZ-NOUS AVEC RESPECT ET ÉQUITÉ... J`ESPERE JUSTE QUE CA NE PRENDRA PAS UN AUTRE RECOURS COLLECTIF!!! RESPECTEZ LA DÉCISION DE LA COUR!!!! SI C`EST BON POUR LA SISIP C`EST BON POUR LES ELB, ON ES TOUS DES VÉTÉRANS QUI ONT VU LEUR PENSION DÉDUITE INJUSTEMENT!!!! DEPUIS AVRIL 2006 JUSQU`A OCTOBRE 2012!!! ALORS RESPECTEZ LA DÉCISION.

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Re: ELB Class Action Law Suit

Post by Brasidas on Thu 13 Feb 2014, 08:02

Who needs a hug?

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Post by Teentitan on Wed 12 Feb 2014, 11:54

Meteck I know you are frustrated but there is no need to call us bantering fools. This forum is working to get your ELB back and a lot of veteran organizations are also fighting.

The OVO is on VAC/GoC backs constantly about this. We all are organized, we all are constantly trying to fight the bureaucracy to improve vets lives.

We veterans are organized! We are fighting for you to have a better life. We are not bending over and taking it. If anything we are bending them over because the internet is bringing everyone together to show the Canadian public that VAC/GoC used to bend us over and they said very loudly "No More!".

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Post by meteck on Wed 12 Feb 2014, 11:28

LISTEN fools....YOUR constant bantering about the what ifs have shoved me over the cliff..between the va and the march of dimes us on elb who had their BENIFIT used as PAY are being fucvked over badly. all the whining and crap changes squat. military people are a screwed up bunch to begin with and they no it.. we have zero chance of coming together on this because all we do is whine wnine whine..they are organized we are not,period..get usedf to bending over vets cause that's our future.enough with this stupid forum. just more reminders that some got paid and some didn't....move along I am

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Post by Teentitan on Wed 12 Feb 2014, 10:14

That's why I'm saying start the "act morally correct" to all politican's, press and letters to the editor.

Focus on the fact that one word difference (benefit v income) should not give the GoC the legal high ground. Rather they should take the morally high ground and do what is right...take care of the seriously injured.

Funny how the NVC just proved it is a penny-pinching insurance company whereas the LTD program is an insurance program and they are paying the seriously injured. Welcome to bizarro world folks!!!!
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Re: ELB Class Action Law Suit

Post by 6608 on Wed 12 Feb 2014, 10:00

Teen you are exactly right in your assessment of the ELB retro, the two “contracts” are worded differently and the main reason we won this lawsuit was because of one word income. The feds feel that by stopping the claw back on the ELB and other allowances going forward they were going above and beyond what they had to do legally and was morally the correct route to take, they however felt that any retro amounts to those programs were going to cost too much when there wasn't a legal requirement to do so. Remember as it has played out thus far it has cost 1.9 billion. Im not saying this is right just how i believe they feel.
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Re: ELB Class Action Law Suit

Post by Teentitan on Tue 11 Feb 2014, 21:11

Here is my opinion on why the ELB has not stopped.

In Justice Barnes decision page 25 para 59 he states that the CDS used the word income for LTD but in the NVC ELB was written as a benefit.

So under LTD you really can't legally screw with income. But under ELB it is legal to screw with benefits.

So legally VAC/GoC is withing there rights to keep clawing back the ELB retro. Now morally that's a whole new ball game.

So I think the new push to VAC/PM/MP is tell us are you exercising your "legal right" to continue clawing back our ELB? Because morally they are acting like Snidley Whiplash tying severly injured veterans to the railroad tracks!
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ELB Class Action Law Suit

Post by Brasidas on Sun 08 Dec 2013, 17:10

Well all there is left now is to wait for January 15th to be told something will get rolling mid-February as everyone is still recovering from vacation.  Then the promise of decisive action and something happening in March.  Another year goes by.

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