Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)
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Re: Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)
BTW
YOUR administrative process = My med release and years of spinning in circles chasing my tail......nice system (i.e. VAC/VRAB and the long waiting period . it takes for ever for a decision and especially when you are blind sided with your first denial.
Just in case there is any doubt to my want "at the time" to be of service to Canada (mind, body and god forbid soul)....being a 3b release, is not enjoyable and was the most degrading form of punishment for me personally...false hope and years of uncertainty.
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Dannypaj- CSAT Member
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Totally and Permanently Incapacitated
Totally and Permanently Incapacitated (TPI)
Click on the link below to learn about the criteria for considering a Veteran to be “totally and permanently incapacitated
http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/about-us/policy/document/1971
Click on the link below to learn about the criteria for considering a Veteran to be “totally and permanently incapacitated
http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/about-us/policy/document/1971
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Re: Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)
"Yet diminished earnings Capacity might allow someone to work part time, without losing their benefits".
I worked as a Commissionaire for 9 years after being medically released and now that they have me in rehab and I rerolled the wool back up from over my eyes also being older and wiser, yes, your right, they have to be (the GOC ) very careful or face the possibility of being sued....with a backlash!
I have the paper trail and the medical records. My case is a gong show and like everyone on here, I will fight them tooth and nail.
They keep changing things up and they are doing it for a reason. I am trying to look at the big picture of all that has happened and hopefully things are getting better and not worst.
Bottom line......when a military member signs a contract and is willing to do another 14 years even injured and then is kicked out medically and honourably because they don't meet the Universality of Service, sorry for complaining that I was unfairly treated...guess contracts do not mean anything. ( I still could of been useful to the CAF, that is what I am saying), I knew my limitations and if I didn't come forward it could be my life and others in the CAF, so regrets "YES", but doing the right thing was what I did at the time (admitting I had a medical condition).
Friend or Foe, time will tell
I worked as a Commissionaire for 9 years after being medically released and now that they have me in rehab and I rerolled the wool back up from over my eyes also being older and wiser, yes, your right, they have to be (the GOC ) very careful or face the possibility of being sued....with a backlash!
I have the paper trail and the medical records. My case is a gong show and like everyone on here, I will fight them tooth and nail.
They keep changing things up and they are doing it for a reason. I am trying to look at the big picture of all that has happened and hopefully things are getting better and not worst.
Bottom line......when a military member signs a contract and is willing to do another 14 years even injured and then is kicked out medically and honourably because they don't meet the Universality of Service, sorry for complaining that I was unfairly treated...guess contracts do not mean anything. ( I still could of been useful to the CAF, that is what I am saying), I knew my limitations and if I didn't come forward it could be my life and others in the CAF, so regrets "YES", but doing the right thing was what I did at the time (admitting I had a medical condition).
Friend or Foe, time will tell
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Re: Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)
And btw, is it too much to ask VAC to send a LETTER of these changes to us?
Explaining. Dear Sir/Madam... abc is now xyz. It'll probably be in the Salute rag
sometime soon.
Explaining. Dear Sir/Madam... abc is now xyz. It'll probably be in the Salute rag
sometime soon.
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Re: Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)
My Gawd! What the heck is going on with these new names?
To me it's all pre-meditated confusion. PIA is CIA, and now TPI is DEC?
It ain't simplifying anything, just the opposite.
I can just imagine the possible revised fine print in policy docs and applications.
GOC, VAC should not do this. It fracks us up.
A change is one thing. But don't change the alphabet.
DEC? Uhh no, sorry but my dob was... FEB
To me it's all pre-meditated confusion. PIA is CIA, and now TPI is DEC?
It ain't simplifying anything, just the opposite.
I can just imagine the possible revised fine print in policy docs and applications.
GOC, VAC should not do this. It fracks us up.
A change is one thing. But don't change the alphabet.
DEC? Uhh no, sorry but my dob was... FEB
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Re: Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)
I agree trooper. In order to be deemed TPI, you couldn't be able to work at all, or so little that it wouldn't be advantageous. Yet diminished earnings Capacity might allow someone to work part time, without losing their benefits. Or it might include those that can only find low paying jobs, compared to a healthy person of similar training and experience.
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Re: Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)
Sounds to me like their moving away from having to be Totally Permanently Incapacitated as a stand point in the qualifications of benefits , to a much lesser stand point of only having to be diminished as in the new term "Diminished Earning Capacity."
I could be wrong and others can jump in but this might be a good move for Veterans seeking benefits , as this could make benefits more accessible to them when applying.
I could be wrong and others can jump in but this might be a good move for Veterans seeking benefits , as this could make benefits more accessible to them when applying.
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Re: Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)
Hmmmmm! What do you think? Trooper, to me it sounds like they want people to not be permanent! I get an uneasy feeling about this!
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Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)
Change in the term of (TPI)
"Totally Permanently Incapacitated" (TPI) has been changed to "Diminished Earning Capacity" (DEC)
Continuation of benefit
(4) If the Minister determines that the veteran has a diminished earning capacity that is due to the physical or mental health problem for which the rehabilitation plan was developed, the earnings loss benefit continues to be payable to the veteran after the plan has been completed or cancelled until the earlier of
(a) the day on which the Minister determines that the veteran no longer has a diminished earning capacity that is due to that health problem.
Examination or assessment
20 (1) The Minister may, for the purpose of determining whether a veteran may continue to receive an earnings loss benefit, require a veteran who, as a result of a determination that they have a diminished earning capacity, is in receipt of an earnings loss benefit under section 18 — or would, but for their level of income, be in receipt of it — to undergo a medical examination or an assessment by a person specified by the Minister.
Diminished earning capacity
(3) The Minister may, on application, increase the career impact allowance that may be paid under subsection (2) by the amount set out in item 2.1, column 2, of Schedule 2, if the Minister determines that the veteran has a diminished earning capacity.
"Totally Permanently Incapacitated" (TPI) has been changed to "Diminished Earning Capacity" (DEC)
Continuation of benefit
(4) If the Minister determines that the veteran has a diminished earning capacity that is due to the physical or mental health problem for which the rehabilitation plan was developed, the earnings loss benefit continues to be payable to the veteran after the plan has been completed or cancelled until the earlier of
(a) the day on which the Minister determines that the veteran no longer has a diminished earning capacity that is due to that health problem.
Examination or assessment
20 (1) The Minister may, for the purpose of determining whether a veteran may continue to receive an earnings loss benefit, require a veteran who, as a result of a determination that they have a diminished earning capacity, is in receipt of an earnings loss benefit under section 18 — or would, but for their level of income, be in receipt of it — to undergo a medical examination or an assessment by a person specified by the Minister.
Diminished earning capacity
(3) The Minister may, on application, increase the career impact allowance that may be paid under subsection (2) by the amount set out in item 2.1, column 2, of Schedule 2, if the Minister determines that the veteran has a diminished earning capacity.
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