DEC in the New System 1% Increase

It's unclear what will happen with Veterans who have already been out several years, IF they haven't been getting the CIAS. Because once you get the CIAS, you are no longer eligible for the 1% increases.

Now if someone was release in 2007 for Medical reason.

and that would be the main reason for his DEC and served 7 years. Would he get 12 X 1%, just not sure i understand

yes, to the 20th year, or you reach age 60, which is the mandatory retirement age for the CF. So if someone was medically released after 1 year, at the age of 40, and were deemed DEC, they would get the 1% increase, for 19 years. But if someone joined the CF at 18, and served 15 years, they would only get the increase, for 5 years. Even if they both released on the same day.

Sleeping Dog wrote:

sports1977 wrote:Hello Everyone,

I was readying this on line, just need some other opinion from others

so were it says "Your salary calculation starting from date of release will be increased by 1 percent every year. This increase will continue for 20 consecutive years, or until you turn 60 – whichever comes first. "
Would this mean if i release in 2005 , it would go up 15% by chance

Life time benefit

If you are unable to find suitable gainful employment due to a physical or mental condition related to your service and are experiencing a diminished earning capacity, the benefit will be paid for life. Your salary calculation starting from date of release will be increased by 1 percent every year. This increase will continue for 20 consecutive years, or until you turn 60 – whichever comes first.

After you reach age 65, your benefit will be reduced and you will receive 70 percent of your adjusted pre-release salary (minus offsets from other income sources, such as benefits payable under the Canadian Forces Superannuation Act, commonly known as the CAF military pension.).

from what I`m reading explained here, the date you got out doesnt matter its how many years you had left to serve, a soldier could have been medically released in 2005 with 1 year in the army, another soldier released in 2005 had 19 years in before they got hurt. The time it takes them to reach what would have been their 20th year of service is whats being considered.?

Its all so vague and confusing....

sports1977 wrote:Hello Everyone,

I was readying this on line, just need some other opinion from others

so were it says "Your salary calculation starting from date of release will be increased by 1 percent every year. This increase will continue for 20 consecutive years, or until you turn 60 – whichever comes first. "
Would this mean if i release in 2005 , it would go up 15% by chance

Life time benefit

If you are unable to find suitable gainful employment due to a physical or mental condition related to your service and are experiencing a diminished earning capacity, the benefit will be paid for life. Your salary calculation starting from date of release will be increased by 1 percent every year. This increase will continue for 20 consecutive years, or until you turn 60 – whichever comes first.

After you reach age 65, your benefit will be reduced and you will receive 70 percent of your adjusted pre-release salary (minus offsets from other income sources, such as benefits payable under the Canadian Forces Superannuation Act, commonly known as the CAF military pension.).

from what I`m reading explained here, the date you got out doesnt matter its how many years you had left to serve, a soldier could have been medically released in 2005 with 1 year in the army, another soldier released in 2005 had 19 years in before they got hurt. The time it takes them to reach what would have been their 20th year of service is whats being considered.?

bigrex wrote:Because eliminating the CIAS, wasn't screwing over severely disabled veterans enough. So they decided to also limit their "career progression" to 20 years.

And I would have to think the majority of us are either over the 20 year mark or very close to. What a cash savings for VAC.

I was released at 17 years in (over 20 with reserve time, which they count) at the age of 36. I had 18 more years to serve, and would have. It should be a 1% increase until CRA.

Because eliminating the CIAS, wasn't screwing over severely disabled veterans enough. So they decided to also limit their "career progression" to 20 years.

Am I the only one who doesn’t understand why they are basing everything on a 20 year career when the standard now, and has been for awhile, 25 years??

Well, the transitional; policies are out, and the only thing I can see, referring to the career progression factor, is that is that it's only payable, if the IRB is approved primarily for a service related injury, AND the Veteran is not receiving the CIAS. It doesn't specify how many years, that it will be paid, when it will be applied, or give an example of how the calculations will be done.

The way I can see it happening though, is that the IRB will be indexed every January, by the CPI, and then the additional 1%, will be applied, on the anniversary of your release. So if you were released in June, your IRB would increase every 6 months, until you hit the prescribed years of service.

sports1977 wrote:See from my stand point,

If someone gets hurt after five years, and because of that injury they had to Opt out.
I think to myself that they would of done 20 year if it wasn't for that injury.

true, but there also others who argue that two soldiers injured one having completed 3 years, the other 15, that the soldier who served longer should be entitled to more compensation based on time in. Then there is also the age thing, and how many “ good years” a person has left in them, so many variables when it should be one veteran one standard.

See from my stand point,

If someone gets hurt after five years, and because of that injury they had to Opt out.
I think to myself that they would of done 20 year if it wasn't for that injury.

It shouldn't matter that a bunch of reservists don't do 20 years. A lot of Ref force don't do 20 years either. if your injured to the point where you can't work anymore you should receive it as the option to continue on for whatever amount of years is off the table. You can't have benefits that only benefit reg force. VACs already been blasted for doing that so I don't see them doing that again.

It may not be the case. I only brought it up, because the percentage of reservists, who actually end up serving for 20 years, is pretty low compared to the reg force,. So it's possible that the GoC, isn't going to assume that a reservist, who might be injured, during one of their weekends, would go on to serve 20 years. They would still be eligible for the IRB, and rightfully so, just maybe not the 1% increase.

bigrex wrote:Well, hopefully after I get to dig through the new policies, I'll have a better grasp on how these new changes, will actually be applied. Because for all we know, reservists may not even be eligible for the Career Progression Adjustment, unless they are full time

if that’s the case, it’ll just be another kick in the nuts as these days deployments are often reserve heavy due to reg force manning shortages, here we go again, it will be like the before 06 after 06 travesty. Imagine two troops in the same vehicle explosion, one a reservist one reg . Force and only the reg force guy gets the progression Allowance because he was full time. Scary thought.

Well, hopefully after I get to dig through the new policies, I'll have a better grasp on how these new changes, will actually be applied. Because for all we know, reservists may not even be eligible for the Career Progression Adjustment, unless they are full time